Your Job and the Economy

[quote]RyanBrown0311 wrote:
In the Plain and simple of it LIFTICVSMAXIMVS is right there are time in which some may have to lower their standards to have employment, at times in my life I have had to do physical labor to have $ for food, I rely on myself not welfare,

It’s bullshit for Mr. Banker not to take the job as a teller simply because it is below him, if he is a qualified manager he will/should quickly move up from the teller position, or use it as a means of sustainment until he can find a position that fits his education/skill set.

It’s our liberal system of coddling the lazy that lets someone who is able to work, not work and still get $ because it may hurt his/her shallow view of self worth to do something else.

If you find yourself thinking that the loss of your current job would put you in the unemployment line rather than behind the grill at McDonald’s you are or will be a casualty.

If you can accept that setbacks happen you will be able to use your past experiences to better any position you find yourself in. If you chose otherwise F U and don’t bitch.[/quote]

Alright, I’m pretty sure I’m completely hijacking this thread by now, so this will be my last post on the topic. If anyone still wants to seriously argue with me, you can start another thread and I’ll probably have to go in just to bang heads with you.

I agree that sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to get by. However, an investment banker is generally someone who graduated from one of the best schools in the country, and is a bright and highly motivated individual.

To make him work as a bank teller is a waste of his talent, his education, and his time. It is in his best interests, and that of society as well, for him to keep looking for a job which best utilizes his gifts.

Sometimes it will take him a long time to find that job, but it makes sense for him to look good and long for that job. While he is looking he is unemployed, and not by choice. The same applies to other specialized people who are taking a long time to find a job.

They need time to find jobs which suit them, and it makes sense for them to do so, not just for them, but for the economy as a whole. If surgeons lose their job, it’s in our best interest that they keep searching for a damn job instead of becoming Mcworkers. You follow?

Yes I follow and agree but being employed at a lesser job while you look for a better job is not being unemployed it is being underemployed, my point is that our society supports the “victim role” mentality allowing anyone who wants to be unemployed do nothing other than “look” for a job.

I have never been unemployed, I have worked crap jobs while I tried to get into my career field i have been underemployed several times, as far as for the economy as a whole it is better to have substandard employment than no employment even if it is just for a month or two while a surgeon finds a job in the correct field.

[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
Tell your friend to apply at oil companies. Oil is a must have commodity as we found with people continuing to buy it at $5 per gallon, the fact most plastics are made from petroleum etc.

Oil also pays higher than other industries for the same profession and oil is hiring.

Though there has been a slow down compared to a year ago, production is still up from 3-4 years ago and it is still profitable to open new operations, though not as many as was profitable a year ago.

An electrical engineer should be able to find a job with out much issue.
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Agreed.

My dad is an electrical engineer at NOV in Dubai currently, and he’s make a tax-free fortune.

Myself, well the Awards industry has definitely taken a slump, but 2 of our main competing companies folded a couple months back so we’ll be ok for next year. Plus I’m the only one who can do what I do at my job, so I think I’m safe.

[quote]blithe wrote: To make him work as a bank teller is a waste of his talent, his education, and his time. It is in his best interests, and that of society as well, for him to keep looking for a job which best utilizes his gifts.
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This is the essential point you need to realize: valuations are made by individuals. You cannot say a job is beneath someone, what you mean to say is this person has higher expectations than the market will bare. He has two options: he takes a lower wage job or he stays where he is. That could mean he chooses to stay unemployed.

But let’s be realistic for a second, in an unhampered market there would be no banker on the street looking for a job that would be beneath him unless he was worthless and got canned. In that case he’d most certainly be taking a pay cut.

Shit, in our country taxpayers will even subsidize worthless bankers.

I work as a financial counselor & instructor for the USAF. I’m a temporary employee, so my job could have its funding cut at any time.

I hope that doesn’t happen, because the clients I see are extremely financially messed up. My center has about 8 staff members. At any given time, that leaves 3 of us in the office. I provide loans through the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force relief societies. I’m glad they have that available, but “business” is booming like a mad fiend. They just changed some of the food stamp rules in relation to military members living on base, so the ones that DID qualify for food stamps are now over the income limits.

We’re doing food drives, sponsoring families with generous “Operation Santa” donations, etc.

I’m supposed to teach investment classes. Right now, I’m whittling that down to “Invest in your education - you get free classes - work on your degree,” and of course, “The gym is free! Take care of your health.”

Take care of yourselves ~ Renee

Major hotel chain. Big one. Technically we are on a “hiring freeze” but no one has lost their job yet. It would be difficult for the place to function without me (literally I don’t know how they would do it) but business is waaaay down here in the Motor City.