[quote]pat wrote:
orion wrote:
pat wrote:
So I have been thinking lately, looking at unemployment and the expansion of unemployment benefits, about the rights of employees; or lack there of.
Now, I am all for business and I am all for businesses being profitable, but there seems to be a distinct advantage to the company in terms of who holds all the cards.
I am in a good position and have no reason to complain myself, but I have heard story after story of companies taking advantage of employees, freezing raises and so on, just taking advantage of the current climate. For instance, my company made 6 billion more this year than it did last year, but all raises were frozen. Why? Am I mad, maybe a little, but I am not going to pitch a hissy and walk out. So problem number one, we have companies taking advantage of the economic crisis by screwing their employees…There are many examples, I listed one.
The other problem is that companies can unload you for any reason except race. I find this one particularly disturbing. We have no rights in the matter, the company holds all the cards. This is an issue that is not getting much attention, but I think it’s high time employees have some protection by the law. I do not think it’s right for companies to be able to sift you like wheat and cast you in to the fire when they are done.
I know this sounds mega liberal, but I don’t really see it that way. I just don’t think you should be able to shit on people at will, but that is literally the power companies hold over us.
Other than unionize (I fucking hate unions) what are yalls thoughts on how to solve this issue. Soft of balance the scale a little bit.
This isn’t an issue being looked at right now, but eventually, something will have to be done.
Would you like a law that forces you to stay with a company indefinitely?
Uh, no, but I would like something that protects people from being shit canned for no reason though.
You can walk away any time but they cannot lay you off?
It’s called balance. But lay-offs happen way more frequently than people just walking out of a job. But you are right in that the company would have to be protect from walk-aways.
Also, as you may have noticed, the US has a shit load of taxes, lots of regulations and the Indians and the Chinese want their piece of the pie.
They have a big enough piece.
The fact that European and American wages are not sinking any faster is a small wonder.
Compensation is not the reason companies are in financial trouble. You have to take care of you assests. If you buy a car and just expect it to work without taking care of it, it will work for a while, but not long. Just like cars employees need to be taken care of.
I wonder where Ryan is to tell us that those evil foreign capitalists are actually exploiting you, making money by flooding your markets with cheap products.
It is colonialism in reverse and no socialists anywhere to criticize it.
Anyhow, how much money your company makes is irrelevant in absolute terms.
Bullshit. I make the company money, and because I am dedicated I make it more than I would if I just came, did my thing and left. Upper management does not produce shit. If the employees left, the company would close.
Is the ROI comparable to other companies with a similar risk profile or not?
For if it is not, why would anyone invest in your company and that would not only kill your company but also all your jobs.
Oh, we’re better than most. I am speaking in more general terms…I am actually in a good spot.[/quote]
So you think the Chinese and the Indians have made enough money?
But they still do not have two cars and a McMansion and air condition and Flatscreens and I bet hey see no reason why YOU should have them instead of THEM.
Then, absolute profits are irrelevant. If I am a shareholder I do not care what your company makes, I care what I make compared to what could make investing in another company. You can make gazillions and still pay shitty dividends.
Finally, well if you are also against workers just leaving their jobs, why not just chain them to their benches?