Eh… no. It’s average healthy as in a non fit just living your life healthy person. Male 20 / Female 25. That’s assuming she’s telling truth. Lean would be 5% less for both as in athletic lean.
OP has exhibited a clear lack of knowledge in this area. That’s especially scary for a women to partake in anabolics without proper guidance. Also, she’s admittedly average and with our experience here at this forum people usually estimate themselves in better condition than they are.
How was this measurement made?
inBody and clamp measure
Ok so I want to get lean, and I dont want to only use anavar I guess I need to re-edit cause I guess .
But I will listen to the advice and only run a var cycle first.
Testosterone will not assist with making you lean. Anavar will help but proper nutrition and training are going to far exceed what anabolics do.
Do you have a favorite exercise that you are strong doing?
I would use that as a strength metric to see how the Anavar affects your strength.
You are the one who referenced estrogen in fat patterns in your friend, lovingly referred to as saddle bags. Im pointed out the fact that estrogenic conversion can lead to increased fat deposition in females.
OP do what you want.
I’m going to state this one more time, female to male normal conversion clinically starts at 60 mg of androgens per week.
10mg of anavar exceeds that on its own.
There is a double standard here.
We suggest that men have a bodyfat threshold around 12 percent or less before any gear should be added, but that same consideration is never applied to females.
You are spot on in your points.
At best, the woman was an acquaintance. I saw her every so often in the gym. I was told what she did to some extent by a third party. Who’s to know what all she was taking. The point I am making is that she started dabbling in AAS when she was far greater than 25% body fat. Everything about her changed drastically.
Don’t include me in that “we.” My best guess is that I never got above 15% body fat, and stayed around that when “off cycle.” That is where I began AAS every time. I never dieted down a single pound without taking AAS.
I knew very few men that started AAS only when down to 12% body fat, in fact, maybe no one.
Your experience is not that of the masses my friend.
N=1 in your case. Didn’t you get very lean without tracking calories or macros?
Again, not the normal experience, so you shouldn’t be comparing what seems to be very good to great personal genetics to those who are average or below average.
You also cannot bifurcate the difference that gear makes in someone’s physique from the dietary and training changes that probably happened in the same timeline.
You have your opinions on the matters.
I have mine.
Simple.
All I have are my experiences and observation of those around me. I don’t consider experiences as opinions.
And everyone could improve their body composition using the same method as I did. It is simple feedback driven.
That is somewhat fair. Good genetics provides less lag time between cause and effect feedback. Fairly quick feedback is a great assurance and motivator. I knew it worked perfectly every time.
I never knew anyone who started taking AAS only when their percent body fat was below 12%. Then again, I can think of a possible exception. It is likely that Dexter Jackson was less than 12% body fat when he started AAS. In fact, he was likely less than 12% body fat before he ever lifted a weight. I had seen him when he won a National Qualifier as a Bantamweight and watched him lifting weights in the gym a few months before he competed as a Middleweight. But, you don’t like to compare the public with the genetically gifted.
Any advice on a stack of injectable primo and anavar together,? No test.
Please allow me to explain my approach to all AAS use.
Start with low doses of AAS. In your case, something like 10mg/day of Anavar. Run the Anavar for an 8 week cycle, and assess the progress in strength and/or body composition. Take an 8 week cycle off. If you made progress on 10mg/day of Anavar, repeat that the next cycle. And so on, and so on. Once you fail to make any progress, up the AAS or stack with another AAS.
I have no experience using Primobolan, but I understand that it is an AAS with a high anabolic to androgenic ratio, so less of a problem for women.
Don’t try to rush the results, IMO. Building your best physique fits nicely to a process improvement approach. The idea is that each AAS cycle adds a little improvement, so that each cycle builds on the previous cycle.
So 8 week cycle on var ? That isn’t too long to be on 10 mg a day? Sounds good if you think it’s right
It seems that the common agreement on T-Nation among the members is that AAS orals are bad for your lipids. It is true that AAS orals stress your liver.
I did many 8 week cycles over three decades. If I was on a cycle, I was taking oral AAS. Maybe the difference is that I never took more than 20mg/day. (Plus, I might have better liver genetics, but I am a sample size, n=1)
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Firstly, you and I are pretty much the EXACT same age by some months.
Not to be rude, but I’d rather firmly get this across to you than dance around it. Whatever weight it is that you move, you’d be wise to double it over say…5 years. And whatever it is that you’re eating, eat more, because what I’m trying to convey to you is that your diet is going to drive well over half of your performance in the gym.
The other remaining half is your training, but I’m missing everything for set-up, frequency, intensity, conditioning levels or lacktherof, movement selections, etc. Tell us these things.
Should you stick around long enough, talk to folks, share things, start a log, etc., you’ll come to find that most of us, both men and women train almost the exact same depending on our training goals. There’s one fellow in here named @T3hPwnisher, who some time ago posted a training program called Deep Water. All I did was do exactly what that book told me and to this day, that program has helped facilitate some permanent strength building blocks I wouldn’t have received pretty much anywhere else.
What you’re seeking out with steroids you can achieve with food, and something just shy of a brutal albeit simple training approach.
This post is made to get advice from wanting to do AAS. Thanks.
What should I take for PCT and where can I get it from?
