Winner Of The Presidential Election is....

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

Also, while I don’t think Latinos are going to suddenly which camps in droves, I’d expect Romney’s camp to make a very big deal out of the fact that Obama’s plan leaves immigrants standing at the altar after many promises.[/quote]

2 points out of it would be huge, but it would also be killer.

Huge as in: too much of a swing to ask for
Killer as in: seal up Florida, Arizona etc.[/quote]

Have you seen what’s going on in Florida ?

People are getting letters in the mail that they are ineligible to vote…

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I’m sure that the guy just made it up we all know that Obama and company would never do such a thing to hold onto power. Why…that would be dishonest!

In all fairness we don’t know where it came from but quite honestly things like this are going to be rampant over the next 12 days.

Holy Shit. Is this for real???

That’s some fraudulent shit right there. Despicable.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

oops[/quote]

This dude resigned a couple hours after this release.

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Oh boy:

[i]The Arlington County Commonwealth Attorneyâ??s Office and the Arlington County Police Department have been made aware of a video released yesterday allegedly depicting Patrick Moran, former Director of Field Operations for the Jim Moran for Congress campaign organization, assisting another to vote illegally.

The Arlington County Police Department has initiated a criminal investigation of this matter.[/i]

Turning into a bad week for this dude.

Got directed here by a Yahoo article of all things

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/election_2012_tax_plans.cfm

Figured I would let Beans geek out for a bit.

Obama calls Romney a bullshitter…

"I was reminded of this incident when our interview with the president ended. As we left the Oval Office, executive editor Eric Bates told Obama that he had asked his six-year-old if there was anything she wanted him to say to the president. After a thoughtful pause, she said, “Tell him: You can do it.”

Obama grinned. “That’s the only advice I need,” he said. “I do very well, by the way, in that demographic. Ages six to 12? I’m a killer.”

“Thought about lowering the voting age?” Bates joked.

“You know, kids have good instincts,” Obama offered. “They look at the other guy and say, ‘Well, that’s a bullshitter, I can tell.’”

Page 2 of the article.

www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/obama-and-the-road-ahead-the-rolling-stone-interview-20121025#ixzz2ALkKmHyN

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
Got directed here by a Yahoo article of all things

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/election_2012_tax_plans.cfm

Figured I would let Beans geek out for a bit.[/quote]

haha, Thanks man. I’ve been through most of that, and to be honest… It is all stump speech BS.

Tax reform has to pass through both parties. All we know is o wins and rates go up, romney wins and rates stay flat or go down…

Anyone buying the “obama voting early and pressing the eraly vote is a sign he is in trouble” line?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Anyone buying the “obama voting early and pressing the eraly vote is a sign he is in trouble” line?[/quote]

Not sure. If I was a politician with a formidable ground game in a battleground state, you can bet your CPA ass that I’d be pushing for as many “locked in” votes as I could get before the Election day. Think of it as a head start of sorts. It makes perfect tactical sense IMO. I’m surprised more politicians don’t try to lock that stuff up…after all “buyer’s remorse” just means they regret they already gave you their one vote…because you still get the booth checkmark. I’m also surprised Romney wouldn’t be trying to get as many early votes as he can too, especially considering how important Ohio is to him.

On the other hand, it does have a small smell of “trouble” to my nose.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
Ya, Obama is a Communist because when he was nine years old his favorite ice cream parlor was run by a guy named Comrade Shalinksy.

This shit is ridiculous, and note that the smart posters on here never spout this nonsense. They’ll say he’s bad for business, he doesn’t really understand the private sector, he’s arrogant, he’s too progressive, etc. But only the deluded put him in the same column as Stalin. Grab your tinfoil hat and join me on a little excursion:

Obama bailed out the auto industry…at the request of the private sector, to save our free market system from sliding into depression (Unless somebody thinks our economy would have absorbed millions of jobs lost during the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression).

Mitt Romney has spent the last 3 debates arguing that the auto bailout was “exactly what [he] called for in [his] Op-Ed.” Close to the truth, except that private financing was not an option. Here’s the bi-partisan Congressional Oversight Panel: “the circumstances in the global credit markets in November and December 2008 were unlike any the financial markets had seen in decades. U.S. domestic credit markets were frozen in the wake of the Lehman bankruptcy, and international sources of funding were extremely limited.”

And here’s Steven Rattner, a former WALL STREET executive who HEADED THE AUTO TASK FORCE (aside: surely it makes sense that a Communist like Obama would appoint one of Capitalism’s standard-bearers to head his Bolshevik takeover. Right? And obviously it also makes sense that the auto executives–including Ford’s CEO, competitor of Chrysler and GM–would come to Washington to beg for it. Because nothing screams Leninist like a fucking Chief Executive Officer): “In late 2008 and early 2009, when GM and Chrysler had exhausted their liquidity, every scrap of private capital had fled to the sidelines.”

And Bob Lutz, former Vice-Chairman of GM: the bailouts were “necessary government intervention…the banks were even more broke than we were.”

So, to recap: Obama did what Romney said he should do, except for the part where what Romney had prescribed was impossible.
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Great post,smh.

Mufasa
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Many thanks Mufasa. Us Commies have to stick together.

LOL!

Absolutely, smh!

I don’t know WHAT we’ll do if Comrade Obama loses!

Mufasa

[quote]smh23 wrote:
Ya, Obama is a Communist because when he was nine years old his favorite ice cream parlor was run by a guy named Comrade Shalinksy.

This shit is ridiculous
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Yes, your complete misrepresentation is ridiculous. Obama’s mentor for a decade by his own profession was a subversive Communist - his 600 page FBI report reveals how he infiltrated the Democratic Party in Hawaii. Not some guy at an icecream parlour Obama attended - his fucking MENTOR of a DECADE by his OWN ADMISSION. Good grief!

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Is “communist” a bad word choice? Sure. But is sure is fun to watch people flip out when you say it.[/quote]

“Alinskyite” is more appropriate. Better be careful not to use the words “Communist” and “Obama” together or you’re unhinged. In fact, I don’t think we’re allowed to use the word “socialist” either. Nor, “Hussein.”

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
Got directed here by a Yahoo article of all things

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/election_2012_tax_plans.cfm

Figured I would let Beans geek out for a bit.[/quote]

haha, Thanks man. I’ve been through most of that, and to be honest… It is all stump speech BS.

Tax reform has to pass through both parties. All we know is o wins and rates go up, romney wins and rates stay flat or go down…

Anyone buying the “obama voting early and pressing the eraly vote is a sign he is in trouble” line?[/quote]

Interesting, it’s being pushed as the most “bipartisan” review of both sides yet. Looking at it from my eyes (not a tax guy) it was a good read on both, granted some of the math was iffy.

I don’t know if pressing the early vote is a panic sign or not. I support the push, the more people excersise their right to be involved and vote I say the better. Read up on your candidates and vote for what you feel fits you, not what the TV tells you to do.

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:

Interesting, it’s being pushed as the most “bipartisan” review of both sides yet. Looking at it from my eyes (not a tax guy) it was a good read on both, granted some of the math was iffy.[/quote]

I want to call TPC center-left, but I’m not going to go on record saying that. I’m a hammer right now and everything is a nail. Their data is sourced and accurate on history of taxes etc. I do link to the site, refer back to it, and generally think it is a perfectly fine source. So that said, even if their analysis my be a bit left, it isn’t an awful hack job either. I could find bones to pick with any tax analysis though, lol.

Here is the deal, IMO, about both tax plans: (it has been awhile since i’ve read the TPC reports so they may contradict me)

Obama: His biggest flaw is expecting “tax the rich” to carry the “common man” vote. Even if his plan raised 10 billion more a year (there aren’t that many people making 250K+ a year so I believe 10 billion is a high figure) That 10 billion funds the government for like 36 hours or some shit. It is an asinine approach.

If obama really wanted to push this “economic patriotism” he would do the whole 1% tax increase for every 3% cut in spending. But this has to be across all tax brackets. Everyone needs to have skin in the game. He would end up with a 5% tax increase and a 15% reduction in spending, and we’d be on our way to at least some semblance of fiscal responsibility.

99% of the time running on “tax increases for everyone” means you lose by landslides, but he is a rock star and could have sold the idea of “come together, love America, lets do this and be the next great generation”. (Assuming he wasn’t so divisive and arrogant)

Romney’s plan: 20% across the board cuts aren’t going to happen. I know that, the house knows that, Romney knows that, Obama knows that and so to the Dems in the Senate. But it is a great figure to run on. Because now he can negotiate down, a lot, and not break any promises, and still get cuts. The deductions bucket is also brilliant. Because it doesn’t make taxes any easier, and it won’t matter for most people assuming his bucket is in the 25k range. And, with the bucket no one lobby group can back obama in retaliation.

AMT isn’t going anywhere, but the 0% on interest, divs & LTCG for 200k or less is amazing for retired people.

One of the biggest difference between romney’s plan and o’s is romney’s should bring more cash back into the states, while o’s will push more into foreign markets.

Sorry for rambling, I think I had a point somewhere…

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I remember the credible news sourced report from four years ago that stated had Obama not been elected president he couldn’t have got a federal security clearance of any kind due to all his past associations.

Reading that link earlier (on this thread or another - can’t remember) about all the Muslim subversives that have visited the White House in the past four years I have little doubt as to the veracity of the former.[/quote]

That’s right. Obama would not have passed a security clearance. Not because of some guy that ran an icecream parlour he attended as a child but because of his lifelong associations with domestic terrorists, black racialists, Hamas mouthpieces and Communist subversives.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I remember the credible news sourced report from four years ago that stated had Obama not been elected president he couldn’t have got a federal security clearance of any kind due to all his past associations.

Reading that link earlier (on this thread or another - can’t remember) about all the Muslim subversives that have visited the White House in the past four years I have little doubt as to the veracity of the former.[/quote]

That’s right. Obama would not have passed a security clearance. Not because of some guy that ran an icecream parlour he attended as a child but because of his lifelong associations with domestic terrorists, black racialists, Hamas mouthpieces and Communist subversives.[/quote]

But Mitt is a rich guy, and a mormon, so you know, he is evil.

Rasmussen: 49% Say Romney Won The Debates, 41% Say Obama
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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I remember the credible news sourced report from four years ago that stated had Obama not been elected president he couldn’t have got a federal security clearance of any kind due to all his past associations.

Reading that link earlier (on this thread or another - can’t remember) about all the Muslim subversives that have visited the White House in the past four years I have little doubt as to the veracity of the former.[/quote]

That’s right. Obama would not have passed a security clearance. Not because of some guy that ran an icecream parlour he attended as a child but because of his lifelong associations with domestic terrorists, black racialists, Hamas mouthpieces and Communist subversives.[/quote]

But Mitt is a rich guy, and a mormon, so you know, he is evil.[/quote]

and white.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I remember the credible news sourced report from four years ago that stated had Obama not been elected president he couldn’t have got a federal security clearance of any kind due to all his past associations.

Reading that link earlier (on this thread or another - can’t remember) about all the Muslim subversives that have visited the White House in the past four years I have little doubt as to the veracity of the former.[/quote]

That’s right. Obama would not have passed a security clearance. Not because of some guy that ran an icecream parlour he attended as a child but because of his lifelong associations with domestic terrorists, black racialists, Hamas mouthpieces and Communist subversives.[/quote]

But Mitt is a rich guy, and a mormon, so you know, he is evil.[/quote]

Neither are these statements true. A) Mitt Romney is not an evil person and I give him a lot of respect especially for a Vanity Fair photo of him breaking up a hockey fight. He jumped on the ice in street clothes when he was young to break up a fight.

B) Obama is not a communist or a socialist even in if he hung out with Frank when he was 15. We all do stupid shit when we are young. Mitt Romney has photos of him making fun of gays and the poor when he was 15 but the man is a good person and who are we to hold it against him. The “reputable” news source site is the Daily Caller from former crossfire host Tucker Carlson. The article is below.

Asked if the author of book associating Obama with Frank thinks he is a communist. â??Do I think that Obama, if he was a Marxist at Occidental, remains one today? No, I donâ??t,â?? Kengor said.

**** This communist rhetoric is just that rhetoric. Theodore Roosevelt gave a square deal to Americans and broke up Standard and Oil using the government but he is not a socialist. Progressive? Yes probably.

Stephen Harper in Canada one of the most conservative politicians out there bailed out the auto industry. No one calls him a communist. Link below.

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Jesus h. I’ve pretty much come out and said more than once I’m trolling when I call him a communist because it gives me great joy to watch people chew their own arms off to prove otherwise.

But ah, obama talks about Frank and purposely hanging out with maxists throughout his own book brah. And I’m pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that he conveniently left the Frank parts out of his reading of his own audio book.

Thinking of that, imagine how much fun obama had doing the audio version of his own book. His ego must have filled the superdome for like a week.