Winner Of The Presidential Election is....

[quote]smh23 wrote:
I have to say, Trump is a fucking idiot, but this is better than what I expected.[/quote]

Ha ha you expected something even worse than this? This isn’t even a story.

LOL

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Do you guys believe rioting will occur if Obama loses?

Something substantial not just a handful of dickheads[/quote]

Why would that take place? It’s never happened in mondern times (or ever I think). Why would it happen now?

Also, don’t count Obama out Romney must win Ohio, Florida and a couple other swing states to ice this. This election could easily go either way. [/quote]

Because of the race angle. [/quote]

"Not only have Obama voters been making open threats that they will riot and cause mayhem, they have also been caught making direct threats to assassinate Mitt Romney, prompting the Secret Service to announce that it was “aware” of the threats and would “conduct appropriate follow up if necessary.” Before the Secret Service announced they were investigating the threats, Obama front group Think Progress attempted to imply that the whole story was somehow a racist contrivance dreamed up…

From twitter, scores of Obama drones threaten to assassinate Romney:

Douche Kabob: “If Romney becomes president don’t be surprised if I assassinate him.”

Dylan McKelvey: “If Romney becomes president…I will personally assassinate him.”

CH3VY: “Someone tell this cracker get off Romney dick and assassinate his ass.”

Artie Francis: “Ima assassinate Romney if he win!”

Daniel Cudder: “Why can’t someone just assassinate Romney?”

Wickedd’gamess: “if romney win imma assassinate his aah”

Kameko: “If someone just assassinate romney everything will go back as planned”

CallMe_Mayb_: “Romney wins? Lets assassinate that little cock sucker”

raegae: “If Romney get president I’ll walk around sayin ill assassinate his mfkin ass…Ifgaf. Fuck the police”

Emilee Grace: “ROMNEY I’M GONNA FUCKING ASSASSINATE YOU.”

Smokahontas: “Somebody assassinate this fool ass nigga Romney BEFORE he become president”

It goes on like this.

In related news, as well as being a coke head there are now claims surfacing that the President was a coke dealer…

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject[/quote]

Sorry, guys;

Sounds too much like a bunch of white guys trying to talk like Black people on a Blackploitation Film from the 70’s…

(Ummmm…they forgot to call Romney a “Honkey”…)

Mufasa
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You serious? You can check every account to see if it’s genuine. Here’s one:

https://twitter.com/SwagMastaBiebah

Guy has over 9000 tweets. Do you really think Romney supporters would create phony twitter accounts and post threats to assassinate Romney in an attempt to implicate Obama supporters? For real?

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

The President would have no more sway over Allred than Romney has over Trump, correct?

I just don’t see either man (the President or Romney) condoning ANY of this crap.

Mufasa[/quote]

Uh huh…

ALLRED MET OBAMA TWO WEEKS BEFORE ‘OCTOBER SURPRISE:’

http://nation.foxnews.com/gloria-allred/2012/10/24/exclusive-gloria-allred-met-obama-two-weeks-october-surprise

http://www.generationamerica.org/aarp-white-house-investigation

So ahhh… What do you think the chances are this is a) legit or b) will actually be covered by the 3 letter networks?

New media will hammer it, but I think old ass mofo’s need to see this.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
http://www.generationamerica.org/aarp-white-house-investigation

So ahhh… What do you think the chances are this is a) legit or b) will actually be covered by the 3 letter networks?

New media will hammer it, but I think old ass mofo’s need to see this.[/quote]

So a company in direct competition with AARP for members is putting this out…

I can not wait for the next two weeks to be done!

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
So a company in direct competition with AARP for members is putting this out…
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Yeah, I hear ya. That is why I’m pretty skeptical about the whole thing.

Shit, I wish business and organizations were this cut throat all the time. This is so much better than any reality TV show. Even if 30% the shit slinging is legit, we get more truth out of washington than the other 3 years and 8 months between cycles.

I’m also a CPA, pretty sure I’m weird. But I am already looking forward to 2014.

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
http://www.generationamerica.org/aarp-white-house-investigation

So ahhh… What do you think the chances are this is a) legit or b) will actually be covered by the 3 letter networks?

New media will hammer it, but I think old ass mofo’s need to see this.[/quote]

So a company in direct competition with AARP for members is putting this out…

I can not wait for the next two weeks to be done![/quote]

I’m SO with you, Brother!

Mufasa

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
So a company in direct competition with AARP for members is putting this out…
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Yeah, I hear ya. That is why I’m pretty skeptical about the whole thing.

Shit, I wish business and organizations were this cut throat all the time. This is so much better than any reality TV show. Even if 30% the shit slinging is legit, we get more truth out of washington than the other 3 years and 8 months between cycles.

I’m also a CPA, pretty sure I’m weird. But I am already looking forward to 2014. [/quote]

I thought of another POSITIVE!!!

Look how much cash they are all pumping into the USPS!

Whelp… I read through 44 pages of emails. And then the summary here http://www.demint.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=JimsBlog&ContentRecord_id=c4b85d2c-7490-462e-ac7f-9f7ffa15b9d5

I don’t know man. I’m not an expert on how AARP makes its money, but this seems much more legit than Trump or Allred at this point.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

oops[/quote]

This dude resigned a couple hours after this release.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Bets on which story gets more legs?

  1. Libya emails
  2. Trump
  3. Rape comments

My money is on 3, with 2 getting tied to romney and 1 being lost on a vast majority of news networks main page.[/quote]
Republican Strategist John Feehery just sent this out over Twitter:

Note to GOP candidates: If somebody asks you about “rape” in any way or shape, say you are against it and move on to the next question.

https://twitter.com/JohnFeehery/stat...70538410541056

SOMEONE ACTUALLY HAD TO SAY THAT.
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[quote]groo wrote:

SOMEONE ACTUALLY HAD TO SAY THAT.

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BECAUSE LIBERALS ARE UNABLE TO HEAR THE WORDS ACTUALLY SPOKEN AND FEEL THE NEED TO TWIST EVERYTHING TO FIT THEIR OWN NARRATIVE.

[picture]so shitty internet meme about how every democrat is a scumbag communist[/picture]

Awesome contribution dude. Thanks for being a condescending dick and furthering the stereotypes.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

SOMEONE ACTUALLY HAD TO SAY THAT.

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BECAUSE LIBERALS ARE UNABLE TO HEAR THE WORDS ACTUALLY SPOKEN AND FEEL THE NEED TO TWIST EVERYTHING TO FIT THEIR OWN NARRATIVE.

[picture]so shitty internet meme about how every democrat is a scumbag communist[/picture]

Awesome contribution dude. Thanks for being a condescending dick and furthering the stereotypes.

EDIT: also, thanks for proving me 100% correct that taking words out of context to smear is more important to you than the fact our government left citizens to die, and has lied to the American people about it, asked YouTube to stifle free speech and jailed the maker of a innocent video on “unrelated” charges.[/quote]

Agree 100% bean. Groo, you fluctuate between the mind-boggling wisdom of a genius and the pure blinkered asininity of a shameless partisan hack.

Its not a great leap of wisdom to think that when the topic of rape comes up you should just say something like I am against it. Yet again and again thats not what gets said.

The last guy can be some Calvanist if he wants I’ll still go with free will and moral culpability thank you.

His statement isn’t really taken out of context. Dress it up how you like but to him its part of his god’s plan this woman was raped. Its a bit of a conundrum to have an all powerful, all knowing, and eternal god having all of these attributes as well as that being being good.

I don’t particularly like either of the candidates.

At this point in time do you really think there is a large group of undecideds?

Being in Ohio we are getting a ton of focused ads currently and I’d say Obama’s are more compelling and have a big focus on early voting. As a registered independent I get several mailings a day which are lukewarm at best for either candidate.

This forum is almost entirely a partisan circle jerk in one direction why fight the good fight against that? I’d lay odds that upwards of 90 percent of this subforum would never vote for Obama and couldn’t be convinced that his policies are sound. Some of them go so far as to paint him as a communist. The differences in belief systems are too great. There is no middle ground.

[quote]groo wrote:

His statement isn’t really taken out of context.[/quote]

When a seven year old girl is lost to leukemia, and a pastor says to the grieving father; “The Lord works in mysterious ways my son, I’m so sorry.” I’m sure you’ll be standing there ready to pounce with you snarky internet meme pictures about how awful god is, right as that father, for one instant feels an ounce of peace.

Score one for the good fight right?

Sorry man, but you are either in total denial, or weak minded if you can’t see how out of context his statement is.

It isn’t dressing up anything. That is how it works to him. But you know better right? You know how it really is?

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I don’t particularly like either of the candidates.[/quote]

I find this hard to believe, you are a party line guy for sure.

At this point in time do you really think there is a large group of undecideds?

Boo Hoo, people who agree with each other have conversations about topic… The horror.

He is a communist, born one, raised one, choose to hang out with them his entire life… He has at least one book on it actually, in his own words even.

And if you are calling people “'circle jerk” for agreeing, yet complaining because no one will agree with what you determine is the middle? How does that work logically?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

His statement isn’t really taken out of context.[/quote]

When a seven year old girl is lost to leukemia, and a pastor says to the grieving father; “The Lord works in mysterious ways my son, I’m so sorry.” I’m sure you’ll be standing there ready to pounce with you snarky internet meme pictures about how awful god is, right as that father, for one instant feels an ounce of peace.

Score one for the good fight right?

Sorry man, but you are either in total denial, or weak minded if you can’t see how out of context his statement is.

It isn’t dressing up anything. That is how it works to him. But you know better right? You know how it really is?

I don’t complain that people don’t agree. Really I was providing you with proof that you were correct and the stupid ass rape comments were getting the focus by hooking you up with a meme.

I use the perjorative circle jerk because the talk is mutually masturbatory. People’s ideologies are largely immutable by a certain point. Something drastic is needed to change them.

Obama isn’t a communist.

To the religious points.
To a Christian that believes in predestination everything is part of god’s plan. That little girl suffering from leukemia to the rape to whatever act of evil we choose to bring in. I would say that this predestination leads to many uncomfortable conclusions if its tied into an all powerful and eternal god. Any of these conclusions could be avoided by a conception of a limited in power god. Or a god that wasn’t all knowing. Or perhaps a god that wasn’t eternal so long as he came into being after the universe. However these are not conceptions of god that most Christians have.

If you are simply saying that the pastor saying that its god’s plan and the girl is in a better place is simply a comfortable fiction that the pastor is using to make the family and friends feel better, I’d agree. I’d even say it does good and doesn’t promote a lot of harm.
Taking the same type of comfortable fictions into the political sphere is harmful.

Rape is a terrible thing. I’d say abortion is at best a necessary evil in some situations and I know there is not a general agreement on that. Its certainly a serious decision or should be and shouldn’t be taken lightly. His position could easily have been both are horrible things and serious thought needs to be given to any policy decision regarding these issues and left it there.

[quote]groo wrote:
Really I was providing you with proof that you were correct and the stupid ass rape comments were getting the focus by hooking you up with a meme.[/quote]

ha, don’t worry obama’s twitter is trying to connect them, even though romney denounced the rape statement before lunch.

Well, then someone like, I don’t know, obama, would say he had romnesia. I mean, he clearly called rape terrible, or horrible whatever the word he used. But, he doesn’t think life is horrible.

And that is all he said, that in his view, the baby is the sunrise after a dark dark night.

Not agreeing with that opinion is perfectly rational. But to spin his words to act like he said “rape is a gift from god” is laughable and idiotic.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:
Really I was providing you with proof that you were correct and the stupid ass rape comments were getting the focus by hooking you up with a meme.[/quote]

ha, don’t worry obama’s twitter is trying to connect them, even though romney denounced the rape statement before lunch.

Well, then someone like, I don’t know, obama, would say he had romnesia. I mean, he clearly called rape terrible, or horrible whatever the word he used. But, he doesn’t think life is horrible.

And that is all he said, that in his view, the baby is the sunrise after a dark dark night.

Not agreeing with that opinion is perfectly rational. But to spin his words to act like he said “rape is a gift from god” is laughable and idiotic. [/quote]

There’s a couple things involved. Clearly he doesn’t think rape is necessarily a gift from god. But I am sure if he is staunch believer in predestination he would say that it was a necessary part of god’s plan. If one is going to run as an evangelical and hold that there is really no moral culpability(I’d agree that they don’t act like that in practice) then its not a position I’d agree with.

The rape/abortion thing is just a minor illustration of the hypocrisy involved. If its clearly part of god’s plan that life comes from this rape and if we have lemons make some lemonade why aren’t homosexuals part of god’s plan? Maybe being all powerful goes only so far. To hold that its part of god’s plan to back moral or legal issues one agree’s with and to suddenly not hold that this is the case in other issues is a bit suspect.

The biggest issue with this jackass and several of the other’s though is the inability to r estrain themselves from saying something so fucking stupid. I think anyone would have difficulty in attacking a position that basically says rape is horrible and an abortion is terrible and that such issues together require a lot of thought and soul searching and don’t lend themselves to soundbite answers.

Holding that abortion is ok in acts of rape doesn’t seem to terrible of a position to me. Having it be illegal leads to many uncomfortable legal situations that currently don’t work well in case law. Visitation from the father being a prime example.

[quote]groo wrote:

Obama isn’t a communist.

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Obama’s mentor from the age of 9 by his own admission was Frank Marshall Davis[Communist Party Number 47544.] Obama mentions him 22 times in his autobiography.

From The American Thinker:

Frank Marshall Davis’s politics were so radical, and so pro-Soviet, that the Democrats who ran the Senate in 1956 summoned him to Washington to testify on his pro-Soviet activities. Even more remarkable, the FBI placed him on the federal government’s Security Index, meaning that if a war broke out between the United States and the Soviet Union, Obama’s mentor could have been placed under immediate arrest.

Davis, like many American communists, decided to join the Democrats. There were two primary factors that drove this decision: 1) American communists realized that they could never get elected to national office openly campaigning as communists, and 2) when Henry Wallace’s Progressive Party collapsed in 1948, the communists who had pervaded it had nowhere else to go. So, many American communists opted to hitch their wagon to a different star – namely, to the most viable left-leaning party in America: the Democratic Party.

Frank Marshall Davis was among these. This tactical move by Davis is evident in his declassified 600-page FBI file, and specifically an April 1950 report that states that “members of the subversive element in Honolulu were concentrating their efforts on infiltration of the Democratic Party through control of Precinct Clubs and organizations.” These communist subversives, said the report, were pushing “their candidates in these Precinct Club elections.” According to the report, on April 6, 1950, one such candidate, Frank Marshall Davis, was elected “assistant secretary and delegate” to the Territorial Democratic Convention in his particular Precinct Club.

In other words, the Hawaiian Communist Party went underground, realizing that it lacked political viability. Hawaii’s communists changed their tactics, concentrating instead on the mainstream Democratic Party, even running their members in local elections to seize delegate positions. One of those who not only urged this tactic, but was himself elected to a Democratic precinct was Frank Marshall Davis.

Tellingly, Davis himself, in an eerily Obama-like sentiment, had emphasized the need for “fundamental change” in America – advocating exactly that in his kick-off column for the Chicago Star on July 6, 1946.