It’s incredibly weird to argue about whether or not the young women Roy Moore was allegedly involved with were post-pubescent or not.
He’s a fucktard if it’s true and shouldn’t be elected. Whether or not it meets a certain definition of pedophile or not is a waste of time.
Yeah, I expressed incredulity over this line of reasoning well upthread.
Aren’t we supposed to celebrate diversity and respect non normal norms or some shit?
I mean, sure he’s a sick fuck. But he’s a sick fuck in a place where arranged marriages and preying on younger women using any advantage you have is pertty much the norm because a girl with all her teeth and good breedin hips that isn’t all fucked up from inbreeding, domestic violence, and sex abuse is hard to come by.
He’s basically just a middle eastern man in middle america.
It may not be the correct term. Someone who’s been recognized as a woman throughout all of history, up until recently.
Good. Actually, I would too under those circumstances.
I wasn’t speaking about Moore, there. That was just a comment about pedophiles in general. Pedophilia is a mental illness, and I have serious doubts that someone afflicted with it can be rehabilitated.
Ah. The old ‘If it can bleed, it can breed’ standard for sexual maturity.
I will reply only this time until there is a more defined substantiation of the accusations. And at the risk of the ire of those who incorrectly think of me as condoning middle aged men chasing, badgering, assaulting girls.
The original accuser has already been found to have holes in her story, concerning moving to her father’s house 12 days after original meeting (which was at court to switch conservatory parent to father due to her unruly behavior), nonsubstantiation of her story of falling into a wayward life (after 1 year she appeared to be on straight and narrow & moved back in with mom), and a subsequent life highlighted by 3 divorces and several bankruptcies.
The others appeared to be of age (relatively) 18-19 years old with little to confirm (the unexamined yearbook? Or he said, she said).
Lastly, l personally don’t believe Bezos/WAPO to be anything other than a useful idiot tool of propaganda. Just like Zuckerberg/Facebook. These men might be smart, industrious, and ultra wealthy. But those with nefarious aims have twisted wapo, nyt, facebook, msm into bludgeoning tools, after spending decades in the shadows attempting to fundamentally alter society through the education system.
The reporting source, timing, and lack of hard evidence do not convince me of his automatic guilt. An assumed guilt by a court of public opinion (or political rivalry such as McConnell), not one of law.
This opinion, written by two university professors, does a pretty good job of explaining what Moore is(accused of being, at least) and is not.
Wait so we do believe the Washington Post on this?!?
Just messing. Have a great birthday Nick
Glad you brought it up. It’s not my birthday, but is that why that piece of cake is beside my name?
I think so. Maybe it is the date you registered if you didn’t put your DOB down? It’s your t nation anniversary
From the link:
“The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines pedophilic disorder as when an individual over 16 experiences “recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children”
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"One of Moore’s accusers alleged that he assaulted her when she was 16, telling her: “You’re just a child. I am the district attorney of Etowah County and if you tell anyone about this no one will ever believe you.” [emphasis mine]
I’m not following. Are you saying that 16-year-olds are prepubescent, or that he believed a 16-year-old to be prepubescent?
I’m saying that Moore considered this victim to be a child.
Edit: And she was not the youngest of his known victims.
I don’t doubt it.
Edit: I’m 32, and I consider 16-year-olds children. I’m also aware that most 16-year-olds are not prepubescent.
Then Moore can fairly be described as a man with a record of persistent, intense sexual attraction to children.
If we ignore “prepubescent,” I can also be described that way. Hell, I MARRIED a child, and have three children with her!
child
CHīld/Submit
noun
a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.
synonyms: youngster, little one, boy, girl;
a son or daughter of any age.
an immature or irresponsible person.
The definition you quoted says “prepubescent child or children.” It does not say “prepubescent child, or children.” If “prepubescent” didn’t apply to “children” in that definition, the definition would also have to define “children.”
If you say so. I can’t, and dare say most of the other men on this forum can’t either.
I don’t imagine many men are solely attracted to women who have come to be via spontaneous generation.
How can you post a definition of child showing that a 16 year old is by definition a child while also saying it’s unfair to characterize Moore as a pedo because he’s not after children?
You must be talking about “age of majority.” I figure that’s, when talking about a mental illness, not applicable. I don’t think a person can have a mental illness in one state and get rid of it solely by moving to another. (I don’t think a 32-year-old in Mississippi could be considered a pedophile because he’s dating a 20-year-old, and then lose his mental illness by moving to, say, Georgia.)