[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
This guy is clearly a foreign threat to US national security. Why hasn’t he been taken out?[/quote]
Agreed, why doesn’t Seal Team 6 pay him a visit ?[/quote]
Cause they died in a crash?[/quote]
Or did they?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
This forum is a love fest, I tell you . Julian Assange is a hero. 60 minutes did a good piece on him last night.[/quote]
He is useful.
A bit of an egomaniac perhaps, but there are worse things one can be.
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Yeah, really useful, because so many future informants are going to be willing to divulge sensitive information now that they know that people like Assange will just release their name and get them murdered whenever it benefits them to do so.
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Yeah well, maybe somebody should not have dumped this information into a data system which was accessible for roughly 2 million people.
Anyhow, I am sure that you understand the idea of collateral damage?[/quote]
Sorry, I don’t understand your point. Honestly.
Whatever original vision Assange and his crew had, he beheaded it and posted the video on the internet for all to see. From now on, until who knows when, it is going to be extremely unlikely or downright stupid for anyone to leak sensitive information to an internet whistleblower site when they see how the “anonymous” informants in this case were anally raped.
More ironically, over the long term, he may have just done a huge favor for the people he intended to hurt the most.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
This forum is a love fest, I tell you . Julian Assange is a hero. 60 minutes did a good piece on him last night.[/quote]
He is useful.
A bit of an egomaniac perhaps, but there are worse things one can be.
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Yeah, really useful, because so many future informants are going to be willing to divulge sensitive information now that they know that people like Assange will just release their name and get them murdered whenever it benefits them to do so.
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Yeah well, maybe somebody should not have dumped this information into a data system which was accessible for roughly 2 million people.
Anyhow, I am sure that you understand the idea of collateral damage?[/quote]
Sorry, I don’t understand your point. Honestly.
Whatever original vision Assange and his crew had, he beheaded it and posted the video on the internet for all to see. From now on, until who knows when, it is going to be extremely unlikely or downright stupid for anyone to leak sensitive information to an internet whistleblower site when they see how the “anonymous” informants in this case were anally raped.
More ironically, over the long term, he may have just done a huge favor for the people he intended to hurt the most.
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The files Manning sent to Wikileaks where stored in a database where allegedly 2 million people could have access to them.
It is not as if Manning was anything than a glorified grunt either.
So, I do not think that you seriously believe that any intelligence agency worth its salt has not already been over this data twice and that includes Luxembourg.
Also, I welcome competition in the data leaking business, let there be more and more secure leaking organizations.
Finally, the one leaking the stuff was Manning and they had him almost instantly. If there is any reaction, people should be more cautious what they tell the US government, because apparently they just dont give a fuck when it comes to data security.
Or maybe they could protect their more sensitive data better if they did not slap some sort of “Secret OMFG!!!11!!” on just about anything to the point where they themselves dont know what is important and what is not.
seems like a desperate move from wikileaks to stay relevant in the anarchic crowed they belong too.
[quote]orion wrote:
Or maybe they could protect their more sensitive data better if they did not slap some sort of “Secret OMFG!!!11!!” on just about anything to the point where they themselves dont know what is important and what is not.
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I don’t understand how anyone cannot see that US intelligence agencies are nothing more than poorly run bureaucracies – by lunatics, fanatics, sociopaths, ignoramuses, and douchebags.
These same PWI posters who rant about government delivered welfare cannot recognize the same problems that have to happen in the intelligence community just by nature of bureaucracy (namely protecting ones job over delivering good service to a customer).
Intelligence is all done in the same of “security”, of course, but it’s really about expanding the US government’s imperial reign of terror over the globe.
Leak it, baby!
LOL at ‘Wikileaks’! This shit has all been on the Deep Web for years.
Wikileaks…Jesus ‘Tap Dancing’ Christ…
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
LOL at ‘Wikileaks’! This shit has all been on the Deep Web for years.
Wikileaks…Jesus ‘Tap Dancing’ Christ…[/quote]
Yes, but Wikileaks and the Chinese are the only people so far known to have been able to access it. Perhaps you are a good hacker too. If so then yes; LOL at Wikileaks.
Does anyone actually believe any of this? Assange has been walking around for YEARS, threatening, and then releasing, all this information, and yet none of the “evil western empires” has sent someone to take him out? This makes zero sense. None.
The man is either a useful idiot, or a double agent, releasing a mix of true and false information, trying to hide something much bigger. I’m guessing that there ARE agents following him, taking care of their asset, even as he goes crazy and rapes some poor woman. His release and silencing of the story (not even mentioned on his Wikipedia page), helps to prove that he is a knowing asset, not a useful idiot.
[quote]xilinx wrote:
Does anyone actually believe any of this? Assange has been walking around for YEARS, threatening, and then releasing, all this information, and yet none of the “evil western empires” has sent someone to take him out? This makes zero sense. None.
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Because the “evil western empires” aren’t evil. They are weak, appeasing and ineffectual.
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The man is either a useful idiot, or a double agent, releasing a mix of true and false information, trying to hide something much bigger. I’m guessing that there ARE agents following him, taking care of their asset, even as he goes crazy and rapes some poor woman. His release and silencing of the story (not even mentioned on his Wikipedia page), helps to prove that he is a knowing asset, not a useful idiot.[/quote]
His supporters likely edit the Wikipedia entry on him all the time. This is a very common thing. I can’t see any reason for believing that he is anything other than what he appears.
Once more, the Headhunter is being proven right.
Do NOT be in any big cities this Sunday.
That is all.
[quote]xilinx wrote:
…even as he goes crazy and rapes some poor woman.[/quote]
What’s jury duty like in Sweden?
[quote]xilinx wrote:
Does anyone actually believe any of this? Assange has been walking around for YEARS, threatening, and then releasing, all this information, and yet none of the “evil western empires” has sent someone to take him out? This makes zero sense. None.
The man is either a useful idiot, or a double agent, releasing a mix of true and false information, trying to hide something much bigger. I’m guessing that there ARE agents following him, taking care of their asset, even as he goes crazy and rapes some poor woman. His release and silencing of the story (not even mentioned on his Wikipedia page), helps to prove that he is a knowing asset, not a useful idiot.[/quote]
Yeah.
He totally raped them.
It is not like he totally, banged like two chicks at the same time, who got like, totally, pissed and took advantage of the, like, totally ridiculous Swedish laws when it comes to sex.
Totally not a smear campaign or anything.
Totally.
LOL, so you agree with the rest? (you left that totally open…)
I was over-dramatizing. Really, my main point is that it is unreasonable that some government, agency, rouge agent, didn’t put him away already.
[quote]xilinx wrote:
LOL, so you agree with the rest? (you left that totally open…)
I was over-dramatizing. Really, my main point is that it is unreasonable that some government, agency, rouge agent, didn’t put him away already.[/quote]
Not really.
You can kidnap Joe Schmoe and tear out his fingernails, but if anything happens to Assange it would be a PR disaster.
You do not create martyrs if you can help it.
If I were someone higher up in the US food chain I would personally make sure that he does not even cut himself when he shaves.
Id sing him to sleep if I had to.
You people do realise that rouge is make-up?
Rogue is the word you’re looking for.
Mossad agents knew all along about 9/11, hence the van painted with planes crashing into the Towers. They just never blew themselves up, the idiots. Lotta heads rolled at Mossad and CIA over THAT one.
Sunday should prove ‘interesting’.
How has this guy not “disappeared” yet?
[quote]Das Boot wrote:
How has this guy not “disappeared” yet? [/quote]
Wait till he starts releasing stuff about the Russians.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Das Boot wrote:
How has this guy not “disappeared” yet? [/quote]
Wait till he starts releasing stuff about the Russians.[/quote]
I doubt it… he’s not their asset.
Thanks, ephrem… Rogue he is! Even the weak western agencies managed to take out someone ,every once in a while, not torture and release, Orion… that would be dumb indeed. the fact it didn’t happen, after so many years, says to me that something is wrong with this picture.
[quote]xilinx wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Das Boot wrote:
How has this guy not “disappeared” yet? [/quote]
Wait till he starts releasing stuff about the Russians.[/quote]
I doubt it… he’s not their asset.
Thanks, ephrem… Rogue he is! Even the weak western agencies managed to take out someone ,every once in a while, not torture and release, Orion… that would be dumb indeed. the fact it didn’t happen, after so many years, says to me that something is wrong with this picture.[/quote]
What would that accomplish xilinx? They have Bradley Manning in custody, and all Assange did/does is compile the data and then release it on site or via bittorrent.
Killing Assange gives creedence to “the conspiracy” and is counterproductive, imo.
Character assassination is better, and seeing he’s remanded in custody for months again, that seems to work out fine for the powers that be.