Wikileaks Expose US Killing

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[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

The statement you’re trying to bend to attack him with fundamentally focused on a dilemma:

Afghan children die OR American children die

So, which one do you choose?[/quote]

In the delusional world of the average, ignorant American, yes, this would seem to be the fundamental question.

Obviously, this is not the point and I wasn’t twisting his words. I merely responded to his statement. The better question is why are one group’s collective lives more important than the other?[/quote]

How easily manipulated people are.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

NEW YORK Ã??Ã?¢?? Calling himself a Muslim soldier, a defiant Pakistan-born U.S. citizen pleaded guilty Monday to carrying out the failed Times Square car bombing and left a sinister warning that unless the U.S. leaves Muslim lands alone, “we will be attacking U.S.”

Doesn’t the above indicate that some people are mobilized to attack in the US BECAUSE of operations in Afghanistan/Iraq?

Also, the radicals that ARE a threat to Americans are the ones who have the means to come to America… and something tells me they’re not going to stay home and get shot by an American soldier when they could, instead, fly here and actually carry out an act of terrorism.[/quote]

Ah, naive lurker, you should stick to lurking.

You do realize that, in the eyes of radical Islam, the entire planet qualifies as “Muslim land”, right?

You are dealing with a group of people who fervently worship an omnipotent sky-being and his pedophillic proxy and believe that it is their duty and destiny to destroy all non-sky-pedo worshipers and run the entire earth as a brutal theocratic autocracy.[/quote]

Oh. You again.[/quote]

Yep. Just me and my pesky facts.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

NEW YORK Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? Calling himself a Muslim soldier, a defiant Pakistan-born U.S. citizen pleaded guilty Monday to carrying out the failed Times Square car bombing and left a sinister warning that unless the U.S. leaves Muslim lands alone, “we will be attacking U.S.”

Doesn’t the above indicate that some people are mobilized to attack in the US BECAUSE of operations in Afghanistan/Iraq?

Also, the radicals that ARE a threat to Americans are the ones who have the means to come to America… and something tells me they’re not going to stay home and get shot by an American soldier when they could, instead, fly here and actually carry out an act of terrorism.[/quote]

Ah, naive lurker, you should stick to lurking.

You do realize that, in the eyes of radical Islam, the entire planet qualifies as “Muslim land”, right?

You are dealing with a group of people who fervently worship an omnipotent sky-being and his pedophillic proxy and believe that it is their duty and destiny to destroy all non-sky-pedo worshipers and run the entire earth as a brutal theocratic autocracy.[/quote]

Oh. You again.[/quote]

Yep. Just me and my pesky facts.[/quote]

Yawn.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

No, it wasn’t.

Donkey’s views have nothing to do with skin color or nature of speech.

I’ve got to say, you seem to be trying to characterize those who disagree with you as backwoods “hillbillies,” who are uneducated and prejudiced bigots & racists.

That’s kind of condescending, no?[/quote]

He openly admits that Afghan children < American children. Those are his views.

Defend what he says all you want, I’m just pointing out how disgusting of a comment it was. If he happens to be a hillbilly, well it was just a coincidence.

[/quote]

I’m not necessarily defending what he said.

But your criticism of him was unfair, and seemingly part of a pattern of characterizing Americans who don’t share your views as “unwashed” and insular, bigotted hillbillies.

Just for fun (and admittedly absurd), if you could save the life of EITHER an American child OR that of an Afgani child, would you flip a coin to decide? Do you have NO preference to save one of “your own?”

Not saying it’s the same; but it may be the same dynamic…

So, what would you do? [/quote]

This is going full retard…

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]joebassin wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

No, it wasn’t.

Donkey’s views have nothing to do with skin color or nature of speech.

I’ve got to say, you seem to be trying to characterize those who disagree with you as backwoods “hillbillies,” who are uneducated and prejudiced bigots & racists.

That’s kind of condescending, no?[/quote]

He openly admits that Afghan children < American children. Those are his views.

Defend what he says all you want, I’m just pointing out how disgusting of a comment it was. If he happens to be a hillbilly, well it was just a coincidence.

[/quote]

I’m not necessarily defending what he said.

But your criticism of him was unfair, and seemingly part of a pattern of characterizing Americans who don’t share your views as “unwashed” and insular, bigotted hillbillies.

Just for fun (and admittedly absurd), if you could save the life of EITHER an American child OR that of an Afgani child, would you flip a coin to decide? Do you have NO preference to save one of “your own?”

Not saying it’s the same; but it may be the same dynamic…

So, what would you do? [/quote]

This is going full retard…[/quote]

Agreed.

Now that you have joined in.[/quote]

I knew you would not understand.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]joebassin wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]joebassin wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

No, it wasn’t.

Donkey’s views have nothing to do with skin color or nature of speech.

I’ve got to say, you seem to be trying to characterize those who disagree with you as backwoods “hillbillies,” who are uneducated and prejudiced bigots & racists.

That’s kind of condescending, no?[/quote]

He openly admits that Afghan children < American children. Those are his views.

Defend what he says all you want, I’m just pointing out how disgusting of a comment it was. If he happens to be a hillbilly, well it was just a coincidence.

[/quote]

I’m not necessarily defending what he said.

But your criticism of him was unfair, and seemingly part of a pattern of characterizing Americans who don’t share your views as “unwashed” and insular, bigotted hillbillies.

Just for fun (and admittedly absurd), if you could save the life of EITHER an American child OR that of an Afgani child, would you flip a coin to decide? Do you have NO preference to save one of “your own?”

Not saying it’s the same; but it may be the same dynamic…

So, what would you do? [/quote]

This is going full retard…[/quote]

Agreed.

Now that you have joined in.[/quote]

I knew you would not understand.

[/quote]

Understand what? :-)[/quote]

There is no point in discussing if you would save an Afghan or an american children. Neither of them should die.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

NEW YORK Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? Calling himself a Muslim soldier, a defiant Pakistan-born U.S. citizen pleaded guilty Monday to carrying out the failed Times Square car bombing and left a sinister warning that unless the U.S. leaves Muslim lands alone, “we will be attacking U.S.”

Doesn’t the above indicate that some people are mobilized to attack in the US BECAUSE of operations in Afghanistan/Iraq?

Also, the radicals that ARE a threat to Americans are the ones who have the means to come to America… and something tells me they’re not going to stay home and get shot by an American soldier when they could, instead, fly here and actually carry out an act of terrorism.[/quote]

Ah, naive lurker, you should stick to lurking.

You do realize that, in the eyes of radical Islam, the entire planet qualifies as “Muslim land”, right?

You are dealing with a group of people who fervently worship an omnipotent sky-being and his pedophillic proxy and believe that it is their duty and destiny to destroy all non-sky-pedo worshipers and run the entire earth as a brutal theocratic autocracy.[/quote]

Oh. You again.[/quote]

Yep. Just me and my pesky facts.[/quote]

Yawn.[/quote]

Yes, we know that reality is too boring for you. Stick to your comic book dream world where the food companies are out to get you with their mind control HFCS.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

NEW YORK Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? Calling himself a Muslim soldier, a defiant Pakistan-born U.S. citizen pleaded guilty Monday to carrying out the failed Times Square car bombing and left a sinister warning that unless the U.S. leaves Muslim lands alone, “we will be attacking U.S.”

Doesn’t the above indicate that some people are mobilized to attack in the US BECAUSE of operations in Afghanistan/Iraq?

Also, the radicals that ARE a threat to Americans are the ones who have the means to come to America… and something tells me they’re not going to stay home and get shot by an American soldier when they could, instead, fly here and actually carry out an act of terrorism.[/quote]

Ah, naive lurker, you should stick to lurking.

You do realize that, in the eyes of radical Islam, the entire planet qualifies as “Muslim land”, right?

You are dealing with a group of people who fervently worship an omnipotent sky-being and his pedophillic proxy and believe that it is their duty and destiny to destroy all non-sky-pedo worshipers and run the entire earth as a brutal theocratic autocracy.[/quote]

Oh. You again.[/quote]

Yep. Just me and my pesky facts.[/quote]

Yawn.[/quote]

Yes, we know that reality is too boring for you. Stick to your comic book dream world where the food companies are out to get you with their mind control HFCS.[/quote]

You follow me like a lost puppy.

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[quote]joebassin wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]joebassin wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]joebassin wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

No, it wasn’t.

Donkey’s views have nothing to do with skin color or nature of speech.

I’ve got to say, you seem to be trying to characterize those who disagree with you as backwoods “hillbillies,” who are uneducated and prejudiced bigots & racists.

That’s kind of condescending, no?[/quote]

He openly admits that Afghan children < American children. Those are his views.

Defend what he says all you want, I’m just pointing out how disgusting of a comment it was. If he happens to be a hillbilly, well it was just a coincidence.

[/quote]

I’m not necessarily defending what he said.

But your criticism of him was unfair, and seemingly part of a pattern of characterizing Americans who don’t share your views as “unwashed” and insular, bigotted hillbillies.

Just for fun (and admittedly absurd), if you could save the life of EITHER an American child OR that of an Afgani child, would you flip a coin to decide? Do you have NO preference to save one of “your own?”

Not saying it’s the same; but it may be the same dynamic…

So, what would you do? [/quote]

This is going full retard…[/quote]

Agreed.

Now that you have joined in.[/quote]

I knew you would not understand.

[/quote]

Understand what? :-)[/quote]

There is no point in discussing if you would save an Afghan or an american children. Neither of them should die.[/quote]

x2

The real problem is that people are convinced that that specific hypothetical is reality.

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It’s like asking if you could only save your mother or your wife, which one would you save?

And then extrapolating a wild conclusion from your answer (to a wildly unrealistic hypothetical), such as “So you think wife > mother, huh?”

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[quote]Chushin wrote:
You clowns need to learn to read.[/quote]

Hey we got our levels back! Sweet!

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[quote]Chushin wrote:
Dustin wrote:
Stronghold wrote:

The statement you’re trying to bend to attack him with fundamentally focused on a dilemma:

Afghan children die OR American children die

So, which one do you choose?[/quote]

[i]Go ahead and call me a monster, but I’d rather see ten thousand Afghan children die than see one American child die.

—Substandard Donkey—[/i]

Really Chushin? I’m self righteous for labeling this statement as delusional and ignorant? I can’t think of two better words to describe that statement. Whether Substandard Donkey is indeed delusional and ignorant I’m not sure, but this statement doesn’t help his cause.

As much as I hate to admit it, but Ryan McCarter was right in his response to this thread on the first page.

[quote]
Perhaps you could move to be part of a “more enlightened” nation? (Where would that be, BTW?) [/quote]

Why should I have to move to an enlightened nation? Why is it so awful for some of us to want to hold the government accountable for its actions?

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How are we suppose to keep them accountable when the video has yet to be posted? We really can not argue about anything until the evidence of the OPs statement is posted. I am starting to think the OP is a troll, and is loosing credibility in PWI very quickly.

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Dustin is still bothered by what I said haha…

I am just good at making the tough decisions… I didn’t see anyone else provide a solution for the hypothetical dilemma.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:
How are we suppose to keep them accountable when the video has yet to be posted? We really can not argue about anything until the evidence of the OPs statement is posted. I am starting to think the OP is a troll, and is loosing credibility in PWI very quickly.[/quote]

The OP may be a troll, hard to say.

It’s beside the point though, because this isn’t the first time we have heard of civilians “accidentally” being killed in Iraq or A-Stan.