You showed the definition of superstition, not religion. You added the religion part, not Webster. Since you added that part, I took it up with the proper party, you.
And believing life is the only thing that matters is extremely credulous on your part. There is no evidence that it matters more or less than anything else.
Religion is more than belief in a deity.
Apologies, didn’t know I had to link you the definition of religion too.
re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/Submit
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
swingandasecondmiss
Sure there is. What matters is objective. As you can’t tell someone else what matters to them, but they can certainly decide for themselves.
I think what you meant is it doesn’t have to matter that way for YOU, which is true.
See above.
If you look at the two definitions you will see they are not the same. A personal God is a supernatural being but a supernatural being is not necessarily a god, personal or otherwise.
You said,
re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/Submit
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
de·i·ty
ˈdēədē,ˈdāədē/Submit
noun
a god or goddess (in a polytheistic religion).
Not sure how else to put this lol.
If you have a “personal God” that IS God to that person. If they don’t acknowledge it, it’s merely their inability to. I don’t believe in God, but to a Christian, he’s my God anyway.
I guess I could be more accurate and say religion is a TYPE of superstition, but it seems like a distinction without a difference.
Again, as I initially stated, religion is more than belief and even your posts agree with that. I never said that religion wasn’t a form or type of superstition.
Uh yeah, it’s a totally different definition then espousing a definition of of some believed in the face of extreme credulity.
It’s irrelevant whether or not you believe it. You espoused affinity to the credulity of ‘New Atheism’ which is different than classical atheism which at least is far more classy than new atheism could ever hope to be.
By espousing ‘New Atheism’ you aligned yourself with a group that doesn’t merely disbelieve, passe. But you are militant in your hatred for religion.
That was your folly not mine. No, I wouldn’t expect Jesus to come and save you or do miracles for you, you hate him. Hatred is different than disbelief. New atheism is different than classical atheism. Your four horsemen of new atheist dogma has poisoned the wells. And you fell for it hook, line and sinker without thinking for yourself.
All nope. Swingandamiss.
You can’t hate someone you don’t believe in. Pretty simple stuff.
You continue to make these blanket statements without knowing anything about me. It’s boring. And sad, tbh. You should be doing something better on Christmas than spreading hate and ignorance.
Don’t bother trying to get through to him on religion.
I wouldn’t say he’s a lunatic. He’s just like a lot of religious people in that his mind on a topic is made up (re: religion) before anyone actually starts talking. Then you have to wonder if he’s accidentally being wrong or intentionally being wrong.
Lunatic was a poor choice of words but intellectually dishonest on the topic.
He single handedly ended the war on Christmas what else do you guys want???
Yeah, even though Obama the Muslim said Merry Christmas all of the time.
Okay. Happy Winter Solstice!
I mainly took exception to your inference that religious belief is the product of extreme credulity. It is not. There is an extremely long tradition of well explained and well thought out arguments and explanations that support, at least in the case of Christianity and Judaism a reasonable conclusion for belief. It is fair to consider that before making blanket statements of lunacy on the part of the believer.
I apologize for taking the matter to far. I made accusations that were not fair.
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1:57 the evil Muslim who wasn’t born here hating Christmas.
Fortunately the current leader of the free world never joined in Al Ardah, a choreographed ceremony used to signify the beginning of a holy war against “infidels”.
By the way, that green flag (it’s not the flag of KSA) is kind of a big deal, theologically speaking.
American presidents and ME leaders. The photo ops get cringy lately.
You’d be surprised how many Americans fall hook, line and sinker for the Saudi act, not just Presidents. For some inexplicable reasons, it’s especially noticeable with red state Republicans, notably Texans. Take and Bible thumping, gun owning oil executive and after a day with the Saudis he’s repeating word-for-word their worst propaganda.
Not at all. If they demand they are married Orthodox Jewish, that is them changing it. This isn’t an absurd claim, for the record. This has been happening in the Church of England.
This is a matter I voted to legalise in Ireland, for the record (in referendum, which is a far healthier way of doing it) but to say the extreme left don’t wield this club in nasty ways just ain’t so.
Freedom to not provide a service based on your religious convictions. This is especially strange given that most stores reserve the right to refuse you service on entirely discretionary grounds.
