this annoyed me. Brianne was set up wonderfully to fight one of the Night King’s right hand men, wights or whatever they call them, and die.
But NOT ONE epic sword fight, Jon could have joined in, something, but nope. nada. This is probably my biggest gripe with the episode.
I absolutely loved episode 3. I enjoyed arya killing the night king because it was completely unexpected! I think it was an awesome battle. the dothrakia all dying at the start was a massive shock too
That might have been the point? Nobody is epic in the face of unstoppable death. Not even Arya who got concussed.
What point? I was expecting fights and people to die. Meaningful people. We only got Mormont and Greyjoy.
Brienne should have went, her goddamn Squire didn’t even go for christ sakes. Too much buildup as if this was going to be a massive blow to people we care about and we didn’t get that.
I think that was the biggest issue. The lack of real consequences was missing in this episode.
The seeming contradiction in lore and lazy writing.
Based on my understanding of said lore, only fire or objects related to it (I’m sure the story had a fancier term for it but I forget from the top of my head) can kill wights and the White Walkers.
In other words- obsidian and Valyrian steel defeats wights and White Walkers because obsidian comes from lava (fire) and Valyrian steel is enchanted steel supposedly forged in dragon-fire.
So how does it make sense that dragon fire cannot kill the Night King but Valyrian steel can?
I’d be ok if the show took time to establish something that even hints at this. It could be that the Night King can indeed only be killed near a weirwood tree, but we’re never given any information that suggests this.
Lyanna Mormont was epic in the face of unstoppable death.
My favorite scene in the episode.
Funny how tastes go… though I enjoyed the scene, it was predictable, so predictable that I actually thought she’d go out like that and she did !
it was obvious that the littlest character would go out to one of the biggest.
I agree, it was predictable and cliche.
Predictable isn’t necessarily a bad thing though. The show constantly established that Lyanna is fearless and a born leader, so I can accept what she did.
The lack of real consequences have been missing since RR Martin had giving sourcing material this derivative comes from. I could be wrong but my understanding is that he gave the show runners the ending and conceptual plot points to move the story towards it, but not all the details like they had to pull from the books.
Last season and this have been more traditional fantasy story and tropes, than the books that decapitate the main character in the closing of the first act. What made this book series, and albeit show, so good was that it was not traditional fantasy. There was no white knight to come save the day at the last minute, just death. Now like you mentioned the most expendable people were lost.
My wife asked me how I think it will all end, I said if R R Martin wrote the books and this show didnt exist, my money was on the white walkers winning and everyone dying. Now it is John Snow, because that would be the cliche fantasy way to give it a storybook ending.
I may be alone but I hate Dany. She’s just like her dad/brother and you can start to see in how she responds to John’s news that she cares more about power than being a true and good leader. Would not be surprised if she stops banging her nephew and the two oppose each other at the end.
As entertaining as it all was, it did seem fairly simple. There was a lot of lead-up with Tyrion talking to Bran, as if they’d devise something, and Bran just passing the time warging, like he was up to something. I thought the red priestess would resurrect a dead Arya, as they seemed to make a big deal of her saying she’d see her again. I guess Bran was just killing time knowing that Arya would show up? “Hey Theon, good job buddy, I just need 15 more seconds.”
I would have changed the ending to the Night King killing Arya while she ninja jumps him, but then Bran grabs his arm and stabs himself with the super dagger and kills both of them (because, plot convenient magic stuff). Red priestess then resurrects Arya who comes back even more cold-blooded, primed to go take out Cersei. There was so much buildup to a strange connection between Bran and the Night King, maybe there will be more revealed later hopefully. I still liked it, just seemed like it should have been more complex to wrap up that plotline.
Yeah pretty spot on how I felt. I wanted to see some type of equal annihilation between Bran and the night king, a la the Matrix (such an underrated trilogy)
That seems to be the way things are hinting at. That’s why I found those news articles talking about women identifying with Dany amusing.
IIRC, Aerys II was explicitly stated to have been a good and just king during the early parts of his reign.
Then he went insane.
The modern female syndrome. Don’t step into the beta orbit thread lol
This just makes me more depressed that he never finished the books. I really cannot understand how someone who only watched the show can get as emotionally invested or really understand the stakes to the same degree.
This is not me being the ‘book is better’ snob. Just the reality of the immense world building that took place during the first 3 novels cannot be replaced with the casual exposition dialogue that came out over the shows run.
I’m confused. Didn’t the book do this? I recall reading a conversation that talks about Aerys II before he went insane.
Yeah you get no internal monologue with plays, movies etc… like you get with novels. You don’t get to know characters.
Pretty much this. Determined to re establish her rule because of some distant family she can’t even remember. It’s hers by right dammit! A bit entitled.
Honestly everyone left on the board is too dumb to beat Cercie. Even Tyrion and Jamie were fooled by the whole “I’m pregnant” shtick. Maybe Sansa can outmaneuver her… maybe.
Queue the 10 minutes too long explanation from petulant Bran in episode 4. I hate that guy.
Someone help me here real quick…
what happened to the dornish army?
Uncle shit-head captured them. Theon and his sister were ferrying the dornish army across some body of water when their uncle showed up and captured the fleet.
but the whole army was there?
edit: the ‘ticking’ escalation musical piece is very popular now. Was Hans Zimmer the first to do that in Nolan’s Interstellar? The score was the only reason that movie was watchable lol, Hans is a genius.
was good not great.
-Cost $15 million and 55 days continuous shooting for just that one episode …thought somebody could have worked out how to use some basic lighting!