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[quote]H factor wrote:
Lol why are you so caught up in personal details about me?..You make PHOTOSHOPS about another person on an internet forum using the personal information that has come out about them. Seriously that is the very definition of creepy.

You absolutely refuse to answer my question and you refuse to answer it when SMH posts about it. You deflect and dodge and change the subject.

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And he also mentions dicks and masturbation when talking about you. He is creepy and be thankful he can’t post porn because his tastes are sick. He’s a deviant.

It’s funny that you use the words deflect and dodge because that is exactly how people would describe him on another forum. And when someone asked why he didn’t answer a question he replied with, and this will sound familiar, “I already answered.”

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Conservative Dog,

I am posting this to show you a point. Be warned, the man in this video actually dies.

A jury just acquitted both of these cops (one white, the other Hispanic), of all charges, for the beating death of a white homeless man named Kelly Thomas. Kelly Thomas was known by cops to have a mental disorder, and was found to be doing nothing more than roaming through trash. Thomas surrendered himself by sitting on a curb, until they began to tase him.

Kelly Thomas died from asphyxiation, when one of the cops sat on his chest and prevented him from breathing.

Remember, the homeless man died from doing nothing more than roaming through trash. He had no weapons or drugs on him, and was White who ended up being killed by a White and Latino men.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

i just didn’t think you personally would stoop to ignoring what i write and believing only you and your buddy’s questions were valid. you seriously could not have read what i wrote and ignore the idiocy of his statements like members tune me out and everyone hates me. lol.

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I am not ignoring you. The person who is being ignored is me. I am asking you a very straight forward question: Is it true that a white person in the United States, if murdered, is statistically more likely to have been murdered by a person of his or her same race? That, in other words, more white Americans die by the hand of other white Americans than die by the hand of black Americans.

Again, I’m ignoring nothing you write. I’m being ignored. I can assure you that if someone asked me a direct, relevant, yes-or-no question, like the one above, I’d answer it. Immediately.

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At the rate things are going today, you are more likely to die by the State then by some random person lol.

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From the FBI website:

HATE CRIME STATS:

OFFENDERS

In 2012, race was reported for 5,331 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:

54.6 percent were white.
23.3 percent were black.
8.8 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (multiple races, group).
0.9 percent were Asian/Pacific Islander.
0.9 percent were American Indian/Alaskan Native.
11.5 percent were unknown. (Based on Table 9.)

By crime category
Crimes against persons

A total of 3,948 known hate crime offenders committed crimes against persons in 2012. Of these offenders:

43.0 percent committed simple assault.
29.9 percent intimidated their victims.
25.6 percent committed aggravated assault.
0.5 percent raped their victims.
0.1 percent murdered their victims.
0.9 percent committed other types of offenses, which are collected only in the UCR Program?s National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS). (Based on Table 2.)

Crimes against property

A total of 1,413 known hate crime offenders committed crimes against property in 2012. Of these offenders:

53.6 percent committed destruction/damage/vandalism.
17.8 percent committed robbery.
11.7 percent committed larceny-theft.
10.3 percent committed burglary.
2.6 percent committed arson.
0.6 percent committed motor vehicle theft.
3.5 percent committed other types of offenses, which are collected only in the NIBRS.

VICTIMS

By bias motivation

An analysis of data for victims of single-bias hate crime incidents showed that:

48.5 percent of the victims were targeted because of the offender?s bias against a race.
19.2 percent were targeted because of a bias against a particular sexual orientation.
18.7 percent were victimized because of a bias against a religious belief.
12.1 percent were victimized because of a bias against an ethnicity/national origin.
1.4 percent were targeted because of a bias against a disability.

In 2012, law enforcement agencies reported that 3,297 single-bias hate crime offenses were racially motivated. Of these offenses:

66.1 percent were motivated by anti-black bias.
22.4 percent stemmed from anti-white bias.
4.1 percent resulted from anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias.
4.1 percent were a result of bias against groups of individuals consisting of more than one race (anti-multiple races, group).
3.3 percent were motivated by anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native bias. (Based on

Looks like you are more likely to get attacked by a white person if you are black based on these statistics.

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[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Looks like you are more likely to get attacked by a white person if you are black based on these statistics.[/quote]

I’m not sure that’s true. Wouldn’t you need to factor in the % of the total population that is white, black, etc… to figure that out?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Looks like you are more likely to get attacked by a white person if you are black based on these statistics.[/quote]

I’m not sure that’s true. Wouldn’t you need to factor in the % of the total population that is white, black, etc… to figure that out?
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Yes. Many more whites than blacks.

To be honest I don’t care about crime statistics on race. The one I picked was specific because I knew it and it proved my point. C-dog as a white male is more likely to be killed by a white male. If he was black it would be a black male. Crime is bad and we should fight it no matter what skin color criminals had. I would ONLY care about race if only one race committed them. Same how I feel about religion. All religions have wackos.

How are we still talking about this in 2014? At what point do we stop asking what color the rapist is and just be pissed about rape? Victims do not care about the skin color of their attackers so why do non-victims?

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Considering there are only 3,300 victims of hate crimes based on race, I would say that’s so statistically insignificant you couldn’t draw a proper conclusion on it to the entire population.

Let’s expand this a bit. This is the murder data:

For 2012:
VICTIMS
Total: 12,765
White: 5855
Black: 6,454

Offenders
Total: 14,581
White: 4,582
Black: 5,531
Unknown: 4,228 (Big deal here since it can change the statistics a lot.

So far, I’m not seeing a big trend to say OMG I’m more likely to die by a black person than a white person. If it is the case, which there isn’t enough data to support, I would say it would be skewed statistically insignificantly.

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Looks like you are more likely to get attacked by a white person if you are black based on these statistics.[/quote]

I’m not sure that’s true. Wouldn’t you need to factor in the % of the total population that is white, black, etc… to figure that out?
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Yes. Many more whites than blacks.

To be honest I don’t care about crime statistics on race. The one I picked was specific because I knew it and it proved my point. C-dog as a white male is more likely to be killed by a white male. If he was black it would be a black male. Crime is bad and we should fight it no matter what skin color criminals had. I would ONLY care about race if only one race committed them. Same how I feel about religion. All religions have wackos.

How are we still talking about this in 2014? At what point do we stop asking what color the rapist is and just be pissed about rape? Victims do not care about the skin color of their attackers so why do non-victims? [/quote]

I’m with you. I don’t think skin pigmentation has anything to do with crime. I’m not even sure why we keep track of the skin color of the assailants.

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When I see this data I just like to say liberals, liberals, liberals, media, media, media. I don’t know why, I just feel as if I have been trained to say those things for some odd reason…

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Looks like you are more likely to get attacked by a white person if you are black based on these statistics.[/quote]

I’m not sure that’s true. Wouldn’t you need to factor in the % of the total population that is white, black, etc… to figure that out?
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Yes. Many more whites than blacks.

To be honest I don’t care about crime statistics on race. The one I picked was specific because I knew it and it proved my point. C-dog as a white male is more likely to be killed by a white male. If he was black it would be a black male. Crime is bad and we should fight it no matter what skin color criminals had. I would ONLY care about race if only one race committed them. Same how I feel about religion. All religions have wackos.

How are we still talking about this in 2014? At what point do we stop asking what color the rapist is and just be pissed about rape? Victims do not care about the skin color of their attackers so why do non-victims? [/quote]

Yeah I don’t know. Kind of silly to me, UNLESS the crime was racially motivated. But as you can see, there were about 7k cases of racially motivated crime. In 2012, there was 1.2M violent crimes. That makes racially motivated crime 0.5% of all violent crimes.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Looks like you are more likely to get attacked by a white person if you are black based on these statistics.[/quote]

I’m not sure that’s true. Wouldn’t you need to factor in the % of the total population that is white, black, etc… to figure that out?
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Yes. Many more whites than blacks.

To be honest I don’t care about crime statistics on race. The one I picked was specific because I knew it and it proved my point. C-dog as a white male is more likely to be killed by a white male. If he was black it would be a black male. Crime is bad and we should fight it no matter what skin color criminals had. I would ONLY care about race if only one race committed them. Same how I feel about religion. All religions have wackos.

How are we still talking about this in 2014? At what point do we stop asking what color the rapist is and just be pissed about rape? Victims do not care about the skin color of their attackers so why do non-victims? [/quote]

I’m with you. I don’t think skin pigmentation has anything to do with crime. I’m not even sure why we keep track of the skin color of the assailants. [/quote]

If I rob you of 1,000 dollars today would you be ok with it because we are both white? Would you be more mad if I was black? Would you be ok if I was hispanic? No. You would be pissed you got 1,000 dollars stolen from you by a fucking asshole named H factor. Me being white wouldn’t even cross your mind.

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Looks like you are more likely to get attacked by a white person if you are black based on these statistics.[/quote]

I’m not sure that’s true. Wouldn’t you need to factor in the % of the total population that is white, black, etc… to figure that out?
[/quote]

Yes. Many more whites than blacks.

To be honest I don’t care about crime statistics on race. The one I picked was specific because I knew it and it proved my point. C-dog as a white male is more likely to be killed by a white male. If he was black it would be a black male. Crime is bad and we should fight it no matter what skin color criminals had. I would ONLY care about race if only one race committed them. Same how I feel about religion. All religions have wackos.

How are we still talking about this in 2014? At what point do we stop asking what color the rapist is and just be pissed about rape? Victims do not care about the skin color of their attackers so why do non-victims? [/quote]

I’m with you. I don’t think skin pigmentation has anything to do with crime. I’m not even sure why we keep track of the skin color of the assailants. [/quote]

If I rob you of 1,000 dollars today would you be ok with it because we are both white? Would you be more mad if I was black? Would you be ok if I was hispanic? No. You would be pissed you got 1,000 dollars stolen from you by a fucking asshole named H factor. Me being white wouldn’t even cross your mind. [/quote]

Yup.

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So, I guess it is settled then, CDog? Using national statistics, a white person is more likely to be murdered by another white person than by a black one?

Kind of calls into question your fixation on black-on-white crime, doesn’t it? I mean, if it’s the killing of white people that so bothers you, why do you not seem to mention the people who most often kill them?

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:
So, I guess it is settled then, CDog? Using national statistics, a white person is more likely to be murdered by another white person than by a black one?

Kind of calls into question your fixation on black-on-white crime, doesn’t it? I mean, if it’s the killing of white people that so bothers you, why do you not seem to mention the people who most often kill them?[/quote]

Or if it’s the killing of white people that bothers him why not be bothered when white people are killed PERIOD? Like my example with usmc victims don’t care about race. You can’t tell me someone feels differently when getting robbed about the robbery because of the robbers skin color.

Our jails are filled with people of all nationalities, religions, political affiliations, etc. No characteristic is immune.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:
And he also mentions dicks and masturbation when talking about you. He is creepy and be thankful he can’t post porn because his tastes are sick. He’s a deviant.
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when H-factless stated he had a masters degree i laughed. after i stopped laughing i wrote it was a masters in masturbation. then i laughed again.

yes i called him a dick. if i could take it back i would and just say that he is an unpleasant, disagreeable person that makes stupid and ridiculous statements. then he repeats them in response to nearly every thread. on second thought let’s just call him a dick.

then you zecarlo mentioned my testicles. and not just in one post:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

The thing about Overfiend is that he doesn’t care. You can ask him over and over and he’ll just keep on trolling. I always assumed he was a young person but to find out he is an old testicularly challenged man was a surprise. Actually the testicle part was not a surprise. [/quote]

you have a very small brain. and small hands. you repeatedly accuse me of the thing you do along with your reacharound buddy H-factless. remember his “masters degree” statements? and this is such a small sampling:

[quote]H factor wrote:
YOU a white racist old prick [/quote]

[quote]H factor wrote:
I thought you were supposed to be this tough old dude pounding roids because his dick won’t work naturally? [/quote]

[quote]H factor wrote:
YOU a white racist soon to be dead roid using old man [/quote]

zecarlo, T-Nation member utahlama personally called you out about following me around and going too far in my last thread.

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/world_news_war/gee_who_would_have_guessed_?id=5898558&pageNo=5

zecarlo you too are really one of those unpleasant, disagreeable persons that makes stupid and ridiculous statements.

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Why , Cdog, do only some kinds of murders bother you, or bother you more than others? Why do you fixate on ones where the attacker and victim don’t know each other

And, therefore, shouldn’t we be far more worried about intraracial crime–white on white, and black on black? This is the most common form, isn’t it?
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i don’t recall mentioning i had a masters degree to anyone here like you did.

as if it would somehow validate your life or your non parameter question.

next time there is a murder in your city go to the police station and help them out with your theory that if it’s a white you are quite certain another white committed the murder. i’m sure they will reward you with a good citizen citation.

what was it again? oh yeah what are the odds that white attorney would be violently murdered at a mall by four black thugs? according to you he should have been murdered by a white.

keep saying everyone tunes me out while you can’t. that is classic, like your vistaprint masters degree.

Even Jesse Jackson said a few years ago, “There is nothing more painful to me…than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” - actual quote.[/quote]

You are confused. I never said anything about my level of education in this thread, and I never said anybody tunes you out.

You’re also not exactly being clear. You mention some things that are sort of relevant, and you appeal to a few anecdotal instances, but I still don’t know whether or not you are saying that H Factor is factually incorrect. I mean, it is fairly simple isn’t it? This isn’t one of those questions that has a complicated answer, like “Is there a God?” or “Is graffiti art?” It’s the other kind of question, the one that is either right or wrong, like “Is Tom Brady a whiny bitch?” So I ask again: Is it true that, in the United States, more whites are murdered by other whites than are murdered by blacks?
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****** note i will get to the fbi hate crime statistics and other questions posted january 15th. some of you are coming on in the middle of what are actually two threads being talked about at once. this batman thread is mine but the questions being put to me are from another thread******

and of course a couple of regulars are piling on with personal attacks, all the while mixing the two threads and claiming i made certain statements. they have done same in the past.

this is what happens smh when people jump into the middle of shitstorms crawling with trolls (H-factless, zecarlo)

H-factless mentioned he has a masters degree. he wrote to me saying “no one in this forum likes you and virtually everyone has made fun of you at one point or another for your constant racial obsession.” then he stated the majority of members tune me out.

he has the same ability to view PWI forum activity which counts views and posts. any member looking at those can distinguish i am not being tuned out. with over 3000 views of my threads a miniscule fraction attempting to personally vilify me, does not mean “no one in this forum likes me.” so much for his H-facts.

H-factless has no masters degree. his replies in these threads lay open that fact

smh as far as “not being clear” …i would suggest you go back and read from the beginning both threads. how else can you make an honest claim to understand who wrote what or what we are dealing with post to post?

you also stated "…it is fairly simple isn’t it? This isn’t one of those questions that has a complicated answer, like “Is there a God?” or “Is graffiti art?”

i have answered a question from you like that and even posted a pic of the question and my answer in it’s thread. please do me the courtesy of fair battle or no battle. i asked you to answer a question after i ANSWERED YOURS.

answer the above question in picture smh.

P.S.

go back and count how many questions in this thread you have asked such as “From what I gather, CDog claimed that he, as a white guy, is more likely to die at the hands of a black man.”

i never wrote that just the same as i never wrote anything akin to your other race baiting question.

answer my question. it has nothing to do with poverty or lack of education.

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[quote]H factor wrote:
Or if it’s the killing of white people that bothers him why not be bothered when white people are killed PERIOD? Like my example with usmc victims don’t care about race. You can’t tell me someone feels differently when getting robbed about the robbery because of the robbers skin color.

Our jails are filled with people of all nationalities, religions, political affiliations, etc. No characteristic is immune. [/quote]

what come’s into your brain and onto this screen is a crap-shoot. i guess one person’s illogical belief is another person’s survival skill.

you would do well to let the others do the debating and sharing of information.

some stats here seem to be OMITTING anything akin to KNOCKOUT GAMES, CARJACKING MURDERS, FLASH MOBS STORE LOOTING, and tens of thousands of black on white murders, rapes and assaults over the last thirty years that are NEVER given the “race card” status of a hate crime.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:
answer my question. it has nothing to do with poverty or lack of education.
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Yes it does. That is my answer.

What is yours? If it isn’t about circumstance, and it isn’t about genetics, then what is it about?

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:
And he also mentions dicks and masturbation when talking about you. He is creepy and be thankful he can’t post porn because his tastes are sick. He’s a deviant.
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when H-factless stated he had a masters degree i laughed. after i stopped laughing i wrote it was a masters in masturbation. then i laughed again.

yes i called him a dick. if i could take it back i would and just say that he is an unpleasant, disagreeable person that makes stupid and ridiculous statements. then he repeats them in response to nearly every thread. on second thought let’s just call him a dick.

then you zecarlo mentioned my testicles. and not just in one post:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

The thing about Overfiend is that he doesn’t care. You can ask him over and over and he’ll just keep on trolling. I always assumed he was a young person but to find out he is an old testicularly challenged man was a surprise. Actually the testicle part was not a surprise. [/quote]

you have a very small brain. and small hands. you repeatedly accuse me of the thing you do along with your reacharound buddy H-factless. remember his “masters degree” statements? and this is such a small sampling:

[quote]H factor wrote:
YOU a white racist old prick [/quote]

[quote]H factor wrote:
I thought you were supposed to be this tough old dude pounding roids because his dick won’t work naturally? [/quote]

[quote]H factor wrote:
YOU a white racist soon to be dead roid using old man [/quote]

zecarlo, T-Nation member utahlama personally called you out about following me around and going too far in my last thread.

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/world_news_war/gee_who_would_have_guessed_?id=5898558&pageNo=5

zecarlo you too are really one of those unpleasant, disagreeable persons that makes stupid and ridiculous statements. [/quote]
And none of that changes the fact that you were the Overfiend, it only reinforces it. He called me out? This isn’t Gunsmoke, lil’ buddy.