[quote]sufiandy wrote:
…I read somewhere that 80% or more just goes to his church.[/quote]
I’m calling bullshit. I read that his overall tithe to the church is 12.8%. All the rest goes to other charitable organisations. Presumably you can’t find your source now right?[/quote]
In 2011: 1,115k out of 1,330k of cash donations went to LDS. 920k of stock donations to Tyler
In 2010: all cash donations to LDS, 1,525k. 1,458 in stock donations to Tyler.
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It is largely irrelevant. Your church is a perfectly fine organization to donate your money to for rational people. They, you know, help out poor people.[/quote]
I stand corrected. I read in Forbes his average annual tithe to LDS was 12.8%. And as he donated 30% to charity in 2011 I assumed the rest.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
He is hiding the fact that he was at Bain when he said he was not[/quote]
Actually no. A Dem campaign bundler took over the job when he left. Also, Romney created more jobs in the private sector at Bain than Obama created with a trillion dollars stimulus money.[/quote]
I don’t expect you to believe me but I know Romney was at Bain when he said he was not
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
…I read somewhere that 80% or more just goes to his church.[/quote]
I’m calling bullshit. I read that his overall tithe to the church is 12.8%. All the rest goes to other charitable organisations. Presumably you can’t find your source now right?[/quote]
Well here is the simple explanation without any sources.
Income ~20m
Charity ~3m
Mormons are expected to tithe 10% of their income, you said 12.8 for him but let’s say 10 to keep it simple. That means 2m went to the church and 1m elsewhere. That’s a minimum of 66% so my statement of 80% was not that unbelievable.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
…I read somewhere that 80% or more just goes to his church.[/quote]
I’m calling bullshit. I read that his overall tithe to the church is 12.8%. All the rest goes to other charitable organisations. Presumably you can’t find your source now right?[/quote]
Well here is the simple explanation without any sources.
Income ~20m
Charity ~3m
Mormons are expected to tithe 10% of their income, you said 12.8 for him but let’s say 10 to keep it simple. That means 2m went to the church and 1m elsewhere. That’s a minimum of 66% so my statement of 80% was not that unbelievable.[/quote]
I posted a list of all the public worker unions who invested their pensions at Bain Capitol, pretty pathetic these people scream about the 1% and then invest their money there.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
…I read somewhere that 80% or more just goes to his church.[/quote]
I’m calling bullshit. I read that his overall tithe to the church is 12.8%. All the rest goes to other charitable organisations. Presumably you can’t find your source now right?[/quote]
Well here is the simple explanation without any sources.
Income ~20m
Charity ~3m
Mormons are expected to tithe 10% of their income, you said 12.8 for him but let’s say 10 to keep it simple. That means 2m went to the church and 1m elsewhere. That’s a minimum of 66% so my statement of 80% was not that unbelievable.[/quote]
OP says he gave more than 4m to charity.[/quote]
Okay I missed that part especially if the 2011 info was recently released. It looks like that year was an anomaly anyway, maybe because of the presidential run this year. Over the last 20 years the average was 13% or so and last year was 29% of income so big jump there for some reason.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
…I read somewhere that 80% or more just goes to his church.[/quote]
I’m calling bullshit. I read that his overall tithe to the church is 12.8%. All the rest goes to other charitable organisations. Presumably you can’t find your source now right?[/quote]
Well here is the simple explanation without any sources.
Income ~20m
Charity ~3m
Mormons are expected to tithe 10% of their income, you said 12.8 for him but let’s say 10 to keep it simple. That means 2m went to the church and 1m elsewhere. That’s a minimum of 66% so my statement of 80% was not that unbelievable.[/quote]
OP says he gave more than 4m to charity.[/quote]
Okay I missed that part especially if the 2011 info was recently released. It looks like that year was an anomaly anyway, maybe because of the presidential run this year. Over the last 20 years the average was 13% or so and last year was 29% of income so big jump there for some reason.[/quote]
Like any of that matters.
The press has done such a number on Romney people like you and others on this site actually think that this is important. Compare the way you want to slice and dice Romney’s tax returns with the shambles the economy is in and our poor Middle East foreign policy! Why is there no one slicing and dicing what really matters? Noooooooo…let’s spend more time on how much Mitt Romney gave to charity. And of course how much he paid in taxes in 2009…Far more important than the wreck that has been the last four years!
I swear the electorate is hypnotized–But if they don’t snap out of it soon they’re going to awaken to four more years of Obama. And they’re going to ask themselves what the FUCK were we thinking? We had an opportunity to actually hire someone who understands the economy and dig out of the mess we were in. But instead we allowed the MSLM to distract us with nonsense.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
He is hiding the fact that he was at Bain when he said he was not[/quote]
Actually no. A Dem campaign bundler took over the job when he left. Also, Romney created more jobs in the private sector at Bain than Obama created with a trillion dollars stimulus money.[/quote]
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I posted a list of all the public worker unions who invested their pensions at Bain Capitol, pretty pathetic these people scream about the 1% and then invest their money there.
[/quote]
I do not think people dislike the top 1% I think they just want them to pay their fair share of taxes, that’s all
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I posted a list of all the public worker unions who invested their pensions at Bain Capitol, pretty pathetic these people scream about the 1% and then invest their money there.
[/quote]
I do not think people dislike the top 1% I think they just want them to pay their fair share of taxes, that’s all[/quote]
Apparently regardless of how many times that I post the IRS figures for what the top 1% pay you cling to your false argument.
One more time the top 1% pay 37% of all income tax! That is a fact.
But in your distorted mind you think that they are somehow getting away with something.
When I read some of the mind numbing crap on these threads from people like you I really wonder if there is any hope for America.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I posted a list of all the public worker unions who invested their pensions at Bain Capitol, pretty pathetic these people scream about the 1% and then invest their money there.
[/quote]
I do not think people dislike the top 1% I think they just want them to pay their fair share of taxes, that’s all[/quote]
Apparently regardless of how many times that I post the IRS figures for what the top 1% pay you cling to your false argument.
One more time the top 1% pay 37% of all income tax! That is a fact.
But in your distorted mind you think that they are somehow getting away with something.
When I read some of the mind numbing crap on these threads from people like you I really wonder if there is any hope for America.
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answer your legalize marijuana post Beans I mean Zeb
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I posted a list of all the public worker unions who invested their pensions at Bain Capitol, pretty pathetic these people scream about the 1% and then invest their money there.
[/quote]
I do not think people dislike the top 1% I think they just want them to pay their fair share of taxes, that’s all[/quote]
Apparently regardless of how many times that I post the IRS figures for what the top 1% pay you cling to your false argument.
One more time the top 1% pay 37% of all income tax! That is a fact.
But in your distorted mind you think that they are somehow getting away with something.
When I read some of the mind numbing crap on these threads from people like you I really wonder if there is any hope for America.
[/quote]
answer your legalize marijuana post Beans I mean Zeb [/quote]
I posted historical examples, scientific data, and sound economic reasons regarding my position on that other thread.
Why don’t you go to work with what tiny brain power you have and try to refute what I wrote instead of writing your usual mindless drivel?
“Um…I got a friend …um who smokes weed…and um it made him more…um social…DUHHHHHHH:”
Let’s go back to ignoring each other as of right now.
I get ZERO satisfaction from owning you thread after thread. …It’s like beating up the neighborhood retard…
Preface: Personally I couldn’t care less who pays what amount of money to what charity (especially when they know their records will be accessible to the public).
They both gave more than me that’s for sure, so good on them (both also payed less taxes percentage wise). Both generous guys. Still couldn’t care less…
EDIT: I also believe that the question “What is Romney hiding?” refers more to the past 10 years that have yet to be released. Personally still not terribly concerned-I’m sure there is something, I just doubt its relevance.
[quote]CornSprint wrote:
Personally still not terribly concerned-I’m sure there is something, I just doubt its relevance.[/quote]
He isn’t hiding shit I would bet, other than the fact the further you go back the more detail you will get about Bain.
The thing is, he isn’t trying to hide Bain from the public to win, he is trying to protect his investors. He has a duty to his investors, and there are links in those returns I would imagine, that some fuck stick will drill down and start finding who is invested in what, and that is private. Those investors aren’t running for president, and most of them are state and local pension plans anyway.
You have to understand, he can’t give away what Bain is in or doing, because then they will lose competitive advantages that they may have had.
Along with the fact his tax returns are totally irrelevant and the fact more American’s are concerned with them rather than the dead American’s in Libya really is a testament to the sad state of this country.