Ah yeah I remember that thread (I had a different account then). It took me a while but I managed to dig it up: TESTOSTERONE NATION | Confession/Question - Page 1 (all the pages upto and including 41 are available… I think).
^ yeah, I knew there was a way to find it through the archives. There was a second thread also since that one filled up, and eventually a separate website forum was made for those involved. That is where I got the reading list from, the separate site. But those threads are still a great read if someone has the patience to read through it all.
Damn, reading back through some of those posts…hard to believe that was over 3+ years ago. Doesn’t feel like it.
http://www.bakadesuyo.com/ fantastic blog with wide ranging topics
Altucher Confidential and I will teach you to be rich are also excellent websites with quality content.
[quote]staystrong wrote:
^ yeah, I knew there was a way to find it through the archives. There was a second thread also since that one filled up, and eventually a separate website forum was made for those involved. That is where I got the reading list from, the separate site. But those threads are still a great read if someone has the patience to read through it all.
Damn, reading back through some of those posts…hard to believe that was over 3+ years ago. Doesn’t feel like it.[/quote]
That thread was pretty inspiring. A lot of people did some great work - even if they were just lurking. Glad you got some value from it. To be honest, I’m a little disappointed with the way it turned out in the end. I invested a lot of time and energy, then “life” happened and he ended up not seeing things through as he agreed (agreements are important to keep). So when I hear people mention that thread from time to time on here, I do appreciate it. So thank you for the kind words earlier.
I’m on my work computer right now (I’m responsible for the critical power for a data center and got called in because of the high winds for emergency coverage) but when I have some time, I’ll see if I can’t dig up that reading list I posted on the private website. I think I have the file saved on one of my old external hard drives.
These days I’ve been re-reading some of the “Great Books” or “The Western Cannon”. I read most of them while I was in prison, but that was 20 years ago, so I figured I’d read them again with a different perspective. It’s good shit. Many of them are similar in nature to Iron John and give an almost “mythic map” of the human psyche. It says a lot about us humans and our “hard wiring” that a book written about our nature over two thousand years ago, is still relevant today.
If you’ve gone through most of the reading list from that thread and put in the work, you’ve shored up your self esteem, mature boundary function and are operating from an internal locus of control. Now it’s time to build and refine the palace of your mind. Reading and understanding the Western Cannon will benefit you in ways that are both tangible and intangible. Start with Gilgamesh and move on the Greeks (Homer, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Plato, etc…). Then work your way to the Romans and so on and so forth. If the list is too overwhelming, narrow it down by just doing the reading list for St. Johns College. You can knock that out in just a few years. Then read them again a few decades later for a profoundly different perspective.
Good luck!
If you’re having trouble staying on the self-improvement road, I would recommend some improving pornography. The sexual subject matter will keep you interested when nothing else will. There is a whole world of writing about sex that isn’t part of the mainstream literary canon.
Edit: Christ, did I actually post this?
How about improving your thought process getting yourself out of the worldly matrix then read Milestone by Sayed Qutb.
[quote]Der_Steppenwolfe wrote:
If you’re having trouble staying on the self-improvement road, I would recommend some improving pornography. The sexual subject matter will keep you interested when nothing else will. There is a whole world of writing about sex that isn’t part of the mainstream literary canon.[/quote]
Says a guy who was recently committed to a mental institution by his family.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]staystrong wrote:
^ yeah, I knew there was a way to find it through the archives. There was a second thread also since that one filled up, and eventually a separate website forum was made for those involved. That is where I got the reading list from, the separate site. But those threads are still a great read if someone has the patience to read through it all.
Damn, reading back through some of those posts…hard to believe that was over 3+ years ago. Doesn’t feel like it.[/quote]
That thread was pretty inspiring. A lot of people did some great work - even if they were just lurking. Glad you got some value from it. To be honest, I’m a little disappointed with the way it turned out in the end. I invested a lot of time and energy, then “life” happened and he ended up not seeing things through as he agreed (agreements are important to keep). So when I hear people mention that thread from time to time on here, I do appreciate it. So thank you for the kind words earlier.
I’m on my work computer right now (I’m responsible for the critical power for a data center and got called in because of the high winds for emergency coverage) but when I have some time, I’ll see if I can’t dig up that reading list I posted on the private website. I think I have the file saved on one of my old external hard drives.
These days I’ve been re-reading some of the “Great Books” or “The Western Cannon”. I read most of them while I was in prison, but that was 20 years ago, so I figured I’d read them again with a different perspective. It’s good shit. Many of them are similar in nature to Iron John and give an almost “mythic map” of the human psyche. It says a lot about us humans and our “hard wiring” that a book written about our nature over two thousand years ago, is still relevant today.
If you’ve gone through most of the reading list from that thread and put in the work, you’ve shored up your self esteem, mature boundary function and are operating from an internal locus of control. Now it’s time to build and refine the palace of your mind. Reading and understanding the Western Cannon will benefit you in ways that are both tangible and intangible. Start with Gilgamesh and move on the Greeks (Homer, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Plato, etc…). Then work your way to the Romans and so on and so forth. If the list is too overwhelming, narrow it down by just doing the reading list for St. Johns College. You can knock that out in just a few years. Then read them again a few decades later for a profoundly different perspective.
Good luck![/quote]
AC which do you think can more inspirational reading vs a true mentor?
The Kama Sutra has helped me as well as The Bible
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]staystrong wrote:
^ yeah, I knew there was a way to find it through the archives. There was a second thread also since that one filled up, and eventually a separate website forum was made for those involved. That is where I got the reading list from, the separate site. But those threads are still a great read if someone has the patience to read through it all.
Damn, reading back through some of those posts…hard to believe that was over 3+ years ago. Doesn’t feel like it.[/quote]
That thread was pretty inspiring. A lot of people did some great work - even if they were just lurking. Glad you got some value from it. To be honest, I’m a little disappointed with the way it turned out in the end. I invested a lot of time and energy, then “life” happened and he ended up not seeing things through as he agreed (agreements are important to keep). So when I hear people mention that thread from time to time on here, I do appreciate it. So thank you for the kind words earlier.
I’m on my work computer right now (I’m responsible for the critical power for a data center and got called in because of the high winds for emergency coverage) but when I have some time, I’ll see if I can’t dig up that reading list I posted on the private website. I think I have the file saved on one of my old external hard drives.
These days I’ve been re-reading some of the “Great Books” or “The Western Cannon”. I read most of them while I was in prison, but that was 20 years ago, so I figured I’d read them again with a different perspective. It’s good shit. Many of them are similar in nature to Iron John and give an almost “mythic map” of the human psyche. It says a lot about us humans and our “hard wiring” that a book written about our nature over two thousand years ago, is still relevant today.
If you’ve gone through most of the reading list from that thread and put in the work, you’ve shored up your self esteem, mature boundary function and are operating from an internal locus of control. Now it’s time to build and refine the palace of your mind. Reading and understanding the Western Cannon will benefit you in ways that are both tangible and intangible. Start with Gilgamesh and move on the Greeks (Homer, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Plato, etc…). Then work your way to the Romans and so on and so forth. If the list is too overwhelming, narrow it down by just doing the reading list for St. Johns College. You can knock that out in just a few years. Then read them again a few decades later for a profoundly different perspective.
Good luck![/quote]
AC which do you think can more inspirational reading vs a true mentor? [/quote]
I think it depends on the individual. Some people need their hand held and given “tasks” and baby steps. Some people can figure out what they want, figure out how to get there and do the work. Over the years, I have had the benefit of having a few mentors along the way that have helped me work through various sticking points with my personal evolution. But at the same time, I’ve also taken “ownership” of my evolution. So I have sought out the sources that I felt would provide me value. Also, and I think this is critical, a forum - be it online, group discussion or whatever - to discuss ideas and concepts is vital so that your beliefs are challenged and you have a degree of accountability.
Sorry if I’m rambling - I’ve been up for more than 32 hours and I’m tired as fuck.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]staystrong wrote:
^ yeah, I knew there was a way to find it through the archives. There was a second thread also since that one filled up, and eventually a separate website forum was made for those involved. That is where I got the reading list from, the separate site. But those threads are still a great read if someone has the patience to read through it all.
Damn, reading back through some of those posts…hard to believe that was over 3+ years ago. Doesn’t feel like it.[/quote]
That thread was pretty inspiring. A lot of people did some great work - even if they were just lurking. Glad you got some value from it. To be honest, I’m a little disappointed with the way it turned out in the end. I invested a lot of time and energy, then “life” happened and he ended up not seeing things through as he agreed (agreements are important to keep). So when I hear people mention that thread from time to time on here, I do appreciate it. So thank you for the kind words earlier.
I’m on my work computer right now (I’m responsible for the critical power for a data center and got called in because of the high winds for emergency coverage) but when I have some time, I’ll see if I can’t dig up that reading list I posted on the private website. I think I have the file saved on one of my old external hard drives.
These days I’ve been re-reading some of the “Great Books” or “The Western Cannon”. I read most of them while I was in prison, but that was 20 years ago, so I figured I’d read them again with a different perspective. It’s good shit. Many of them are similar in nature to Iron John and give an almost “mythic map” of the human psyche. It says a lot about us humans and our “hard wiring” that a book written about our nature over two thousand years ago, is still relevant today.
If you’ve gone through most of the reading list from that thread and put in the work, you’ve shored up your self esteem, mature boundary function and are operating from an internal locus of control. Now it’s time to build and refine the palace of your mind. Reading and understanding the Western Cannon will benefit you in ways that are both tangible and intangible. Start with Gilgamesh and move on the Greeks (Homer, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Plato, etc…). Then work your way to the Romans and so on and so forth. If the list is too overwhelming, narrow it down by just doing the reading list for St. Johns College. You can knock that out in just a few years. Then read them again a few decades later for a profoundly different perspective.
Good luck![/quote]
AC which do you think can more inspirational reading vs a true mentor? [/quote]
I think it depends on the individual. Some people need their hand held and given “tasks” and baby steps. Some people can figure out what they want, figure out how to get there and do the work. Over the years, I have had the benefit of having a few mentors along the way that have helped me work through various sticking points with my personal evolution. But at the same time, I’ve also taken “ownership” of my evolution. So I have sought out the sources that I felt would provide me value. Also, and I think this is critical, a forum - be it online, group discussion or whatever - to discuss ideas and concepts is vital so that your beliefs are challenged and you have a degree of accountability.
Sorry if I’m rambling - I’ve been up for more than 32 hours and I’m tired as fuck.[/quote]
Lol.
I agree I guess to be more specific can you do one without the other?
You still in Louisiana?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]staystrong wrote:
^ yeah, I knew there was a way to find it through the archives. There was a second thread also since that one filled up, and eventually a separate website forum was made for those involved. That is where I got the reading list from, the separate site. But those threads are still a great read if someone has the patience to read through it all.
Damn, reading back through some of those posts…hard to believe that was over 3+ years ago. Doesn’t feel like it.[/quote]
That thread was pretty inspiring. A lot of people did some great work - even if they were just lurking. Glad you got some value from it. To be honest, I’m a little disappointed with the way it turned out in the end. I invested a lot of time and energy, then “life” happened and he ended up not seeing things through as he agreed (agreements are important to keep). So when I hear people mention that thread from time to time on here, I do appreciate it. So thank you for the kind words earlier.
I’m on my work computer right now (I’m responsible for the critical power for a data center and got called in because of the high winds for emergency coverage) but when I have some time, I’ll see if I can’t dig up that reading list I posted on the private website. I think I have the file saved on one of my old external hard drives.
These days I’ve been re-reading some of the “Great Books” or “The Western Cannon”. I read most of them while I was in prison, but that was 20 years ago, so I figured I’d read them again with a different perspective. It’s good shit. Many of them are similar in nature to Iron John and give an almost “mythic map” of the human psyche. It says a lot about us humans and our “hard wiring” that a book written about our nature over two thousand years ago, is still relevant today.
If you’ve gone through most of the reading list from that thread and put in the work, you’ve shored up your self esteem, mature boundary function and are operating from an internal locus of control. Now it’s time to build and refine the palace of your mind. Reading and understanding the Western Cannon will benefit you in ways that are both tangible and intangible. Start with Gilgamesh and move on the Greeks (Homer, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Plato, etc…). Then work your way to the Romans and so on and so forth. If the list is too overwhelming, narrow it down by just doing the reading list for St. Johns College. You can knock that out in just a few years. Then read them again a few decades later for a profoundly different perspective.
Good luck![/quote]
AC which do you think can more inspirational reading vs a true mentor? [/quote]
I think it depends on the individual. Some people need their hand held and given “tasks” and baby steps. Some people can figure out what they want, figure out how to get there and do the work. Over the years, I have had the benefit of having a few mentors along the way that have helped me work through various sticking points with my personal evolution. But at the same time, I’ve also taken “ownership” of my evolution. So I have sought out the sources that I felt would provide me value. Also, and I think this is critical, a forum - be it online, group discussion or whatever - to discuss ideas and concepts is vital so that your beliefs are challenged and you have a degree of accountability.
Sorry if I’m rambling - I’ve been up for more than 32 hours and I’m tired as fuck.[/quote]
Lol.
I agree I guess to be more specific can you do one without the other?
You still in Louisiana? [/quote]
Not AC but chiming in to say that I don’t think so. There are limits to each.
They say of children that the smart ones know the right answers, but the really gifted ones know the right questions.
You have to be able to identify the questions and then seek your answers. Books can provide ideas and truths, but they can’t provide a role model or adjust their responses to your specific needs.
With all due respect, can I ask that you go fuck yourself? No, seriously, go away and have a wank. You’ll feel much better.
And for your information, I was an informal patient, and I entered a mental institution of my own volition.
Can I just ask, are you usually this much of a cunt or should I put off sticking you on ignore for now?
With every book I read, I am improving myself
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]staystrong wrote:
^ yeah, I knew there was a way to find it through the archives. There was a second thread also since that one filled up, and eventually a separate website forum was made for those involved. That is where I got the reading list from, the separate site. But those threads are still a great read if someone has the patience to read through it all.
Damn, reading back through some of those posts…hard to believe that was over 3+ years ago. Doesn’t feel like it.[/quote]
That thread was pretty inspiring. A lot of people did some great work - even if they were just lurking. Glad you got some value from it. To be honest, I’m a little disappointed with the way it turned out in the end. I invested a lot of time and energy, then “life” happened and he ended up not seeing things through as he agreed (agreements are important to keep). So when I hear people mention that thread from time to time on here, I do appreciate it. So thank you for the kind words earlier.[/quote]
I was disappointed with how it turned out, but I enjoyed following along. That is why I made no attempt to involve myself in the thread and be “guided” by you when you opened up that initial picture competition. I knew life would get in my way, and this was my own “journey” so to speak. I hold myself accountable very well, and knowing I couldn’t commit that much of my time and yours for as long as it was going to take made me decide to just follow along. I did get a lot out of it though.
[quote]
I’m on my work computer right now (I’m responsible for the critical power for a data center and got called in because of the high winds for emergency coverage) but when I have some time, I’ll see if I can’t dig up that reading list I posted on the private website. I think I have the file saved on one of my old external hard drives. [/quote]
No rush, I actually have that list on my computer and plan on continuing reading some of those books in the near future. I’ve already read a decent number of them (on top of the ones like Iron John and King Warrior that you suggested in the actual Confession/Question thread). Though if you want to post it up here for others, go ahead. Or if you think it would take you too much effort to track it down I can just post it up here if you want. Unless you’re opinions have changed on any of the books, the list I saved should be identical to the one posted on that separate website. Should even still have 1, 2, 3, or in the case of psycho-cybernetics, 8 stars next to the title showing which ones you felt were most important to read next.
[quote]
These days I’ve been re-reading some of the “Great Books” or “The Western Cannon”. I read most of them while I was in prison, but that was 20 years ago, so I figured I’d read them again with a different perspective. It’s good shit. Many of them are similar in nature to Iron John and give an almost “mythic map” of the human psyche. It says a lot about us humans and our “hard wiring” that a book written about our nature over two thousand years ago, is still relevant today.
If you’ve gone through most of the reading list from that thread and put in the work, you’ve shored up your self esteem, mature boundary function and are operating from an internal locus of control. Now it’s time to build and refine the palace of your mind. Reading and understanding the Western Cannon will benefit you in ways that are both tangible and intangible. Start with Gilgamesh and move on the Greeks (Homer, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Plato, etc…). Then work your way to the Romans and so on and so forth. If the list is too overwhelming, narrow it down by just doing the reading list for St. Johns College. You can knock that out in just a few years. Then read them again a few decades later for a profoundly different perspective.
Good luck![/quote]
I’ll definitely look into those. The sheer number of books that is involved is amazing. Even just looking at the St. Johns College list is a ton of books. That is one hell of a project lol, but one I look forward too. Thanks for the suggestions.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
With every book I read, I am improving myself[/quote]
Exactly. Which is why I asked this question to this forum. Some books are more helpful than others at improving yourself. I’m not interested in a typical “self-help” book, where it tells you to love your life and BS little “tips” to make yourself more productive.
I want books that actually help you by educating you about a subject or, more preferably fo me, people (others and myself).
[quote]Der_Steppenwolfe wrote:
With all due respect, can I ask that you go fuck yourself? No, seriously, go away and have a wank. You’ll feel much better.
And for your information, I was an informal patient, and I entered a mental institution of my own volition.
Can I just ask, are you usually this much of a cunt or should I put off sticking you on ignore for now?[/quote]
You’re asking me questions as if I care. Maybe you should read some of the books in this thread. You’ve got a lot of work to do…
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
You have to be able to identify the questions and then seek your answers. Books can provide ideas and truths, but they can’t provide a role model or adjust their responses to your specific needs.
[/quote]
Exactly how I view things. For many of the books I’ve read, I knew before buying them what questions I had and what I wanted out of them and was fairly confident I would get my answers from those books. A lot of times I did, sometimes I didn’t. I wouldn’t have found many of those books though without the guidance of people on this forum, such as AC.
Having someone to lead/help me, even indirectly, sped up the process and saved me a lot of time. Even more luckily for me, a lot of people were following along the Confession/Question thread also and they were asking the same questions I had during that time. So it was about as close to being “mentored” as you can get.
[quote]staystrong wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
With every book I read, I am improving myself[/quote]
Exactly. Which is why I asked this question to this forum. Some books are more helpful than others at improving yourself. I’m not interested in a typical “self-help” book, where it tells you to love your life and BS little “tips” to make yourself more productive.
I want books that actually help you by educating you about a subject or, more preferably fo me, people (others and myself).[/quote]
I agree with shunning typical self help books. They’re BS salesmen IMO.
I liked the 48 laws of power, but thought it wasn’t modern and way too typical self helpish.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]CLINK wrote:
Any of the 4 Gospels. My pref is Luke.[/quote]
0_0
YOU quoting the Gospel.
[/quote]
I didn’t quote it. Just recommended it.
