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[quote]Sturat wrote:

[quote]OOOHHH…YEAHHH wrote:

[quote]Sturat wrote:

[quote]OOOHHH…YEAHHH wrote:
Hello,

I just recently graduated with a degree in engineering. At the moment the economy in Ireland is an absolute disaster with little hope of getting better. It’s very difficult for a graduate to get a job at the moment as I’ve applied for hundreds of positions but to no avail.
So I have to leave the place and find employment elsewhere.

My question is, where am I most likely to get a job? What countries are doing well at the moment? I do have a general idea, but there’s nothing like hearing it directly from people who are actually living in the country.
I would be looking at entry level positions that require minimum experience.
Thanks[/quote]

Fort McMurray Alberta, seriously.

Also Edmonton Alberta.

Yeah those are both in Canada.
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I have heard good things about working in Alberta. Lots of Irish there too apparantly.
Whats the cost of living like there?[/quote]

The cost of living here is pretty decent overall, you’ll have no trouble having a pretty nice lifestyle doing what you do.

There’s lots of Irish in Edmonton, quite the community actually.

if you’re interested shoot me a pm and I’m happy to help.[/quote]

Sounds good, thanks for the info.
I may indeed send you a couple of PMs later on. I Appreciate it!

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[quote]ThEmetrius wrote:

[quote]OOOHHH…YEAHHH wrote:

[quote]ThEmetrius wrote:
Try Australia man.

Western Australia is booming at the moment as we have the largest Iron Ore Industry in the world.

BHP and Rio Tinto are in the midst of multi billion dollar expansion plans.

Mining is huge in general over here (not Victoria or NSW) and it pays very well. You’ll make around 100k straight up.

We are also set to become the worlds largest LNG producer in the next few years.

Again, huge dollars and lots of expansion right now.

echo the last guys post about Fort McMurray; tar sands is big business.[/quote]

Jesus 100K? This would be for a graduate mechanical engineer with little experience?
I presume Perth is the best place to go, prospects wise?
Thanks, I appreciate it.[/quote]

Yeah man. Perth is the way to go if it’s along the lines you’re thinking.

Western Australia is holding up a significant part of the economy with resources.

If you work out on site you will be making that kind of money.

Mind you, these places get very hot in remote Australia and most are in locations you think of when you hear ‘the outback.’

At the VERY least I would expect 75k. Our exchange rate is pretty much same as US/CAD.

You work on a roster of usually 2 weeks on/ 1 week Off. Or 8 days/6 days. Oil and gas usually do equal time 4 weeks/4 weeks.

Tough for some, has never bothered me though. Live in a big camp with free food. You can save a ton of cash and party hard on your break.

Another thing to think about is that Perth has high living costs :frowning:

Similar deal to Alberta I guess except different commodities.

PM me if you wanna

Je
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Jesus, 2 weeks on/1 week off sounds sweet! I can only imagine the cash that could potentially be saved living that lifestyle.
Thanks for your help.

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]OOOHHH…YEAHHH wrote:
“My job in Singapore took some 50 applications in two weeks, I moved here, stayed, applied for jobs and cold called maybe over 120 companies, basically saying I’m engineering qualified, i’m eager to work, i’m here for two weeks and can you meet me?” <-This is very inspiring and is basically exactly what I feel I need to do at this stage. It’s good to see someone has actually had sucess doing this.
“i’m here for two weeks and can you meet me?” Were these actual interviews or meetings that set you up for interviews?

I have had a few people look at my CV and it seems ok. I think where I was going wrong was during phone interviews. I messed up quite a few of them because I answered them truthfully instead of going online and looking for the answers that they want to hear (such as being a good drone and working with the company for your entire life!). Ah well, live and learn.
Thanks again for the help.[/quote]

Cold called 120, about 50+ CVs sent, 5 to 6 interviews, 1 job offer. Moved in three months, one way ticket, been here 10 years, married, house, 1 baby girl daughter :slight_smile:

In a CV you need to be truthful, but you can moderate how much you say and use better language. Be able to back up your CV with depth in the interview.[/quote]

Ok, I think I may need to phone more companies directly. So you bascially rang them up and said: “hey I’m in Singapore for a couple of weeks, is there any chance you can meet me for an interview”??
Did you have any contacts out there and how much experience had you prior to going to Singapore?
Thanks a lot for the advice.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]OOOHHH…YEAHHH wrote:
Hello,

I just recently graduated with a degree in engineering. At the moment the economy in Ireland is an absolute disaster with little hope of getting better. It’s very difficult for a graduate to get a job at the moment as I’ve applied for hundreds of positions but to no avail.
So I have to leave the place and find employment elsewhere.

My question is, where am I most likely to get a job? What countries are doing well at the moment? I do have a general idea, but there’s nothing like hearing it directly from people who are actually living in the country.
I would be looking at entry level positions that require minimum experience.
Thanks[/quote]

India as a programmer. They get like $5 buck an hour.[/quote]

And that is colossol money out there. Apparantly the cost of living is about $10/week or less.
Unfortunately my programming skills are fairly shitty, I would be looking at pure engineering roles.
Thanks for the reply.

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[quote]OOOHHH…YEAHHH wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]OOOHHH…YEAHHH wrote:
“My job in Singapore took some 50 applications in two weeks, I moved here, stayed, applied for jobs and cold called maybe over 120 companies, basically saying I’m engineering qualified, i’m eager to work, i’m here for two weeks and can you meet me?” <-This is very inspiring and is basically exactly what I feel I need to do at this stage. It’s good to see someone has actually had sucess doing this.
“i’m here for two weeks and can you meet me?” Were these actual interviews or meetings that set you up for interviews?

I have had a few people look at my CV and it seems ok. I think where I was going wrong was during phone interviews. I messed up quite a few of them because I answered them truthfully instead of going online and looking for the answers that they want to hear (such as being a good drone and working with the company for your entire life!). Ah well, live and learn.
Thanks again for the help.[/quote]

Cold called 120, about 50+ CVs sent, 5 to 6 interviews, 1 job offer. Moved in three months, one way ticket, been here 10 years, married, house, 1 baby girl daughter :slight_smile:

In a CV you need to be truthful, but you can moderate how much you say and use better language. Be able to back up your CV with depth in the interview.[/quote]

Ok, I think I may need to phone more companies directly. So you bascially rang them up and said: “hey I’m in Singapore for a couple of weeks, is there any chance you can meet me for an interview”??
Did you have any contacts out there and how much experience had you prior to going to Singapore?
Thanks a lot for the advice.[/quote]

Correct. At that stage I asked for the HR, I’d even speak to a HR Executive, didn’t have to be the HR Director. They could also be called Talent Acquisition, Recruitment Head/Lead etc.

One advantage today is LinkedIn, many of the names of these people are on LinkedIn already, find their names, call their main line, ask them by name. Make the receptionist feel like this is an important call.

Why do you want to speak to the HR?

I am a candidate and have something of a confidential nature to discuss. It’s not convenient for me to relate this over the phone or to leave it as a message, can I please speak to…?

I didn’t have any names before I went I just knew some company names. I picked up the telephone directory, went to “Chemicals” and went from Arch Chemicals to Wacker Chemicals (you get the idea).

I had 2 years work experience in Australia before Singapore. But it was still uphill to get them to see me. I read my old “call book” (2001) a few months back, some of the names of HR still rang a bell after I did recruitment for 3 years in 2007.

I know it sounds daunting, but everyone’s experience is different. There are some great options in this thread - Australia, Canada, Japan. All are great seriously. Get that first job, that experience then continue to chart what you want to do. Build that confidence. Enhance your strengths. Move out of your comfort zone. :slight_smile:

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]OOOHHH…YEAHHH wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]OOOHHH…YEAHHH wrote:
“My job in Singapore took some 50 applications in two weeks, I moved here, stayed, applied for jobs and cold called maybe over 120 companies, basically saying I’m engineering qualified, i’m eager to work, i’m here for two weeks and can you meet me?” <-This is very inspiring and is basically exactly what I feel I need to do at this stage. It’s good to see someone has actually had sucess doing this.
“i’m here for two weeks and can you meet me?” Were these actual interviews or meetings that set you up for interviews?

I have had a few people look at my CV and it seems ok. I think where I was going wrong was during phone interviews. I messed up quite a few of them because I answered them truthfully instead of going online and looking for the answers that they want to hear (such as being a good drone and working with the company for your entire life!). Ah well, live and learn.
Thanks again for the help.[/quote]

Cold called 120, about 50+ CVs sent, 5 to 6 interviews, 1 job offer. Moved in three months, one way ticket, been here 10 years, married, house, 1 baby girl daughter :slight_smile:

In a CV you need to be truthful, but you can moderate how much you say and use better language. Be able to back up your CV with depth in the interview.[/quote]

Ok, I think I may need to phone more companies directly. So you bascially rang them up and said: “hey I’m in Singapore for a couple of weeks, is there any chance you can meet me for an interview”??
Did you have any contacts out there and how much experience had you prior to going to Singapore?
Thanks a lot for the advice.[/quote]

Correct. At that stage I asked for the HR, I’d even speak to a HR Executive, didn’t have to be the HR Director. They could also be called Talent Acquisition, Recruitment Head/Lead etc.

One advantage today is LinkedIn, many of the names of these people are on LinkedIn already, find their names, call their main line, ask them by name. Make the receptionist feel like this is an important call.

Why do you want to speak to the HR?

I am a candidate and have something of a confidential nature to discuss. It’s not convenient for me to relate this over the phone or to leave it as a message, can I please speak to…?

I didn’t have any names before I went I just knew some company names. I picked up the telephone directory, went to “Chemicals” and went from Arch Chemicals to Wacker Chemicals (you get the idea).

I had 2 years work experience in Australia before Singapore. But it was still uphill to get them to see me. I read my old “call book” (2001) a few months back, some of the names of HR still rang a bell after I did recruitment for 3 years in 2007.

I know it sounds daunting, but everyone’s experience is different. There are some great options in this thread - Australia, Canada, Japan. All are great seriously. Get that first job, that experience then continue to chart what you want to do. Build that confidence. Enhance your strengths. Move out of your comfort zone. :)[/quote]

Excellent! I was a bit unsure as to what exactly I would say when I phoned them but You have layed it out quite nicely for me. Ok, I have a good plan of attack now.
This thread has been a huge help to me. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond. It’s great to get a “global” input on job hunting!