What are the European guidelines?
Google it. Have a look at Japan averages as well.
In this case, Iād say zero is a more impressive number than 78M.
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āThe results showed that average salt intake per day was 14 grams for men and 11.8 grams for women. The figures were far above the governmentās goal of reducing intake to less than 8 grams for men and 7 grams for women. The World Health Organization recommends an intake of 5 grams.ā
Japan way above the western guidelines and they live longer.
Zero is your average.
Hmmā¦For someone who disdains trolling, you sure do a lot of it. Anyway, I think Iāve more than made my point here, so Iām going to suspend my end of our back-and-forth.
Still no facts. I keep posting the data and you keep dodging and weaving.
So much for your fake consensus. You obviously never travelled or know the world has no consensus on diet.
I unliked this post just to like it again.
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āDoctors in their late 50s or older have a flock of patients who they have been advising for often 20-30 years. It is difficult for them to do an about-face and tell their patients that their medical advice of the last 25 years turned out to be wrong, and probably reduced their lifespans and contributed to their declining health.ā
They donāt donāt to be sued. Millions died sooner due to bad advice.
Concur heavily. Very few doctorās DONāT donāt donāt to be sued.
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Thanks secretary.
I too am a fan of the Gyllenhaals.
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They are also physically smaller on average. You would think they would need less salt just because of that.
European Commision site:
"International health related organisations have issued recommendations to limit salt intake to less than 5 or 6 g per day (see Table 3A). In the EU, most national recommendations that quantify salt intake recommend the same. "
2300mg sodium = 6g salt = EU and US/Canada have the same guidelines.
@chris_ottawa I do not believe that any significant difference in life expectancy can be linked to average salt consumption. There is a link to diet, but it is often also the socio-economic development of a country and therefore the causality is difficult to pinpoint. Countries with a higher consumption of alcohol often have a much lower life expectancy. They may also have a high sodium diet, so we do not always know what is causing this. Less developed countries with bad healthcare also have lower life expectancy. I am half Japanese myself and I believe the overall diet drives a lot of japanese longevity. I know this is controversial to say but points like low dairy, low sugars, high amounts of fish help. Having said that, western diets are becoming more poplar there as well and this might change in the next 10 years. Or it might not due to scientific advancements in medicineā¦
Back to the topic at handā¦ I think we all agree that BP can easiliy be observed and is generally undesirable. So one way is to make changes to your diet and observe the effect. Get yourself a good BP monitor and keep track of things. It might interfere with your training, but variables like caffeine intake, salt, animal fat, alcohol can all impact your numbers. Being a HTN patient myself, I would strongly recommend to go to a doctor (ideally a cardiologist) and get your bloodworks done. If you have HTN, cardiologist often conduct an echocardiogram (Ultrasound of your heart) and can determine any structural cause or any damage done. I measure mine weekly and found that it is partly genetics (my mother has high BP, wheres my sister and my father have low BP) and consumption of salt and cheese. For others it could be something else. Just like in training, see what works for you.
I have never been found to have high BP. Last time I checked it was last year, I also had a cup of some strong coffee shortly before and my BP was just slightly above 120/80. The doctor said it was nothing to worry about. There are free BP test machines in some pharmacies, I could just go there and check it. I suppose that getting my blood checked out isnāt a bad idea too.
I donāt like going to doctors, the last time I got sick was after going to that doctor. Some guy was coughing his lungs out in the waiting room and I caught whatever he had.
Mostly I was just wondering what I should really avoid so that I donāt have any unnecessary health complications in the future that could have been easily prevented. It sound like the main thing I need to do is lose a bit of body fat. That same doctor didnāt test my BF% but said that it didnāt appear to be anything to worry about. If I had to guess I would say itās between 20-25%, could be lower but Iām pessimistic. I think Iām just as fat as then but now I have a bit more muscle too.
On the tv show The Doctors there is a anti salt doctor and a pro salt doctor. The pro salt doctor starts ripping the anti salt doctor a new one quickly before the host shuts down the debate.
On youtube.
NSAIDs have a massive effect on blood pressure.
Aside from that, my personal simple standards are to
- Limit sucrose (because of the fructose) to 50 grams a day, and also limit alcohol to an average of <or equal to 1/2 per day.
- omega-6 to <8 if possible, plus get 2 grams of omega 3 a day on average, no more, no less. Omega-3 reduce inflammation but they also carry oxidative damage just like omega-6s
- Try to become aware of food that may be inflammatory to you. In my case, wheat clearly causes brain fog and allergic symptoms.
- Minimize artificial sweeteners and NSAIDs
As long as you are not eating too many calories, you can eat as much saturated fat, monounsaturated fat, or glucose polymers (starch) as you want. Get fiber from pectin and cellulose including naturally salt brined and fermented veggies. I personally can function equally well getting all my energy from saturated and monunsaturated fat for a few days, and getting it all from glucose polymers for another.
What are your main sources of saturated fat?
Can that lifespan be attributed to sodium intake, or are there a plethora of factors involved in lifespan differences between cultures?
I mean, for a data and facts guy, that fallacy there is just straight up horse shit.
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You just proved my point. Other factors are far more significant than reducing sodium when it comes to health and a long life.
Therefore the salt bashing in the media and by some doctors is wrong.
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