[quote]pushharder wrote:
Sooooooo Matt…about that Live Spill deal…[/quote]
Sorry, Push. It ain’t goin’ anywhere. Much to your chagrin (and disbelief, no doubt), LiveSpill is by far the most popular section / feature of our site, statistically. Nothing else has even come close to its volume.[/quote]
You’re going to have to tell me why it is superior to the conventional forum format. There must be a reason. Even if it’s just one reason. Seriously, I don’t get it. I see no advantages whatsoever. How can a mish mash of posts beat a quote] [/quote type deal?
Enlighten me. Please.[/quote]
All we can figure is that (a lot) of people actually prefer the lightweight nature of LiveSpill. It’s not as much of a commitment, if you will.
Regardless, it’s not just a guess, we measure stats on a regular basis. And LiveSpill is killing it.
What I like about the Livespill is that you can clearly see who the author is and go right to their posts. If I want to see what the question being answered is then it’s really simple to go back and see as it’s typically only a few posts back. It’s also nice to not have the discussion totally derailed by a couple of posters.
It’s also the only place that the featured authors seem to be posting. I think that people like hearing from the featured authors and if they are only posting in the live spills then that’s where the crowd is going to gather.
My only real suggestion is to only make the current author yellow. Now all of the featured authors are yellow even if they are simply making a comment in the current live spill. If you made them some other color then it would be even easier to scan through the spill.
It’s also the only place that the featured authors seem to be posting. I think that people like hearing from the featured authors and if they are only posting in the live spills then that’s where the crowd is going to gather. [/quote]
I would hope this was taken into consideration somehow, because it does seem incredibly relevant. Of course the livespills are the most active area, that’s where people can directly converse with CT(by far the most popular contributor to the site, I don’t need the statistics you’ve gathered to be certain in that assumption). CT’s personal forum was also extremely popular, as well as the V-Diet forum where people could directly address Shugart (even if I never liked or visited that section, I was aware of it’s popularity).
Also if you’re measuring a forum post against a livespill post that sems very unfair, because you yourself has pointed out that a ‘spill’ is far more lightweight. If I were to post on the forums in a manner I would in a livespill, a post like this would be an entire page of discussion if for no other reason than the character limit, let alone the notion that every idea is it’s own ‘post.’
When you combine everything into ‘Indigo Nation’ and the perks that come along with it, you have an obvious recipe for active participation.
If tomorrow Brain Candy was released in it’s own forum section, and CT only posted in that forum(or just in an article forum like there used to be), it would become extremely popular and everyone on the site knows it.
Sucks to limit what forums are available when you’re not logged in. I browse the site in my free time at work but cant log in from work because of firewall. So yeah that part of the new setup definitely sucks.
edit’ and its not sama I’m disappointed in losing lol, that was blocked as well it was more the likes of gal and t replacement that I frequented the most.
What I find interesting is that the training forums have actually improved over the years, and grown tremendously in value, whereas the GAL sub forums have just turned to utter garbage (well, PWI was always garbage.) There’s a lot of posters who think that they’re much more clever and witty than they really are, and memes are probably the overall worst thing to happen to the internet since… well, ever to be frank. Worse even than One Guy One Jar, respectively.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Sooooooo Matt…about that Live Spill deal…[/quote]
Sorry, Push. It ain’t goin’ anywhere. Much to your chagrin (and disbelief, no doubt), LiveSpill is by far the most popular section / feature of our site, statistically. Nothing else has even come close to its volume.[/quote]
You’re going to have to tell me why it is superior to the conventional forum format. There must be a reason. Even if it’s just one reason. Seriously, I don’t get it. I see no advantages whatsoever. How can a mish mash of posts beat a quote] [/quote type deal?
Enlighten me. Please.[/quote]
All we can figure is that (a lot) of people actually prefer the lightweight nature of LiveSpill. It’s not as much of a commitment, if you will.
Regardless, it’s not just a guess, we measure stats on a regular basis. And LiveSpill is killing it.[/quote]
I agree with Push. I hate livespill and don’t see how it can be better. Stats can be highly misleading depending on how they are applied.
[quote]SSC wrote:
What I find interesting is that the training forums have actually improved over the years, and grown tremendously in value, whereas the GAL sub forums have just turned to utter garbage (well, PWI was always garbage.) There’s a lot of posters who think that they’re much more clever and witty than they really are, and memes are probably the overall worst thing to happen to the internet since… well, ever to be frank. Worse even than One Guy One Jar, respectively.
That being said, PIIHB or something.[/quote]
It’s almost always the shallow minded, those who can’t compete well in the arena of ideas, who think PWI is garbage.
It’s uncanny.[/quote]
That’s definitely not a fair assessment. There are obviously very intelligent, thoughtful posters in that forum. I would frequent it more often if I could engage in our old spirited debates without the minions chiming in polluting it with utter nonsense. It definitely detracts from the quality posts and conversation there.
[quote]SSC wrote:
What I find interesting is that the training forums have actually improved over the years, and grown tremendously in value, whereas the GAL sub forums have just turned to utter garbage (well, PWI was always garbage.) There’s a lot of posters who think that they’re much more clever and witty than they really are, and memes are probably the overall worst thing to happen to the internet since… well, ever to be frank. Worse even than One Guy One Jar, respectively.
That being said, PIIHB or something.[/quote]
It’s almost always the shallow minded, those who can’t compete well in the arena of ideas, who think PWI is garbage.
It’s uncanny.[/quote]
That’s definitely not a fair assessment. There are obviously very intelligent, thoughtful posters in that forum. I would frequent it more often if I could engage in our old spirited debates without the minions chiming in polluting it with utter nonsense. It definitely detracts from the quality posts and conversation there.
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Tell me how that differs with any other forum.[/quote]
For reals? Its rarely a problem at all in the 3 forums I frequent on this site: Powerlifting, T Replacement, and Steroids. We get our occasional oddball idiot but they usually get put in their place pretty quickly and don’t stick around very long. Out of the 3, Steroids is probably the most likely breeding ground for morons, but I’m hoping the new changes in site policy and google prominence will help rid that.
[quote]SSC wrote:
What I find interesting is that the training forums have actually improved over the years, and grown tremendously in value, whereas the GAL sub forums have just turned to utter garbage (well, PWI was always garbage.) There’s a lot of posters who think that they’re much more clever and witty than they really are, and memes are probably the overall worst thing to happen to the internet since… well, ever to be frank. Worse even than One Guy One Jar, respectively.
That being said, PIIHB or something.[/quote]
It’s almost always the shallow minded, those who can’t compete well in the arena of ideas, who think PWI is garbage.
It’s uncanny.[/quote]
That’s definitely not a fair assessment. There are obviously very intelligent, thoughtful posters in that forum. I would frequent it more often if I could engage in our old spirited debates without the minions chiming in polluting it with utter nonsense. It definitely detracts from the quality posts and conversation there.
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Tell me how that differs with any other forum.[/quote]
For reals? Its rarely a problem at all in the 3 forums I frequent on this site: Powerlifting, T Replacement, and Steroids. We get our occasional oddball idiot but they usually get put in their place pretty quickly and don’t stick around very long. Out of the 3, Steroids is probably the most likely breeding ground for morons, but I’m hoping the new changes in site policy and google prominence will help rid that.
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You’re right. I should’ve compared PWI with GAL - the other forum that discusses social, religious and sometimes political views.[/quote]
Hey now, I like my memes, they make me feel witty.
shit.
Agree though that the training parts of the forums are definitely better.
[quote]SKELAC wrote:
I think we need more interviews with people who think out-of-the-box.Just like it used to be.[/quote]
Everybody thinks out of the box these days. I want people who aren’t afraid to admit they think IN the box. In the box is the new out of the box.[/quote]
Once upon a time,there were interviews with Art De Vany,Greg Valentino,Bass Rutten,Christopher Sommer,Charles Staley,Mauro Di Pasquale,…
great times![/quote]
In case you’re not aware Charles Staley is actually keeping a log on the forums at the moment.
As for the livespill, if you don’t like it, don’t use it? I mean, I don’t exactly love it either but it does seem to have improved interaction between the authors and the readers.
[quote]Cimmerian wrote:
As for the livespill, if you don’t like it, don’t use it? I mean, I don’t exactly love it either but it does seem to have improved interaction between the authors and the readers.
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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Matt, correlation or causation? Honest question.
Have you considered that the whole Indigo/CT Training Lab/Colorado Springs gym thing and NOT the LiveSpill is where the “killing it” is coming from?[/quote]
Simply put, we will not use the Forums for discussions on our official feature presentations. LiveSpill is the preferred method for online communication between T-Nation / Biotest and our readers.
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Especially not Edgy. The truth would kill him. Well, maybe not kill given the ol’ Viking blood - and man is it old - but it might resemble those papercuts you do not know quite how you got it but it stings when you wash your hands. At least spare him that (the bastard).[/quote]
