What Else to Take with Test Cyp?

Please don’t take it personally. You have to understand that several people per day post new threads asking the exact same questions you are and some members get a little short as a result. Personally I think that if the stickies were actually stickies and stayed on top and were more prominent that would mitigate some of the repeat questions, but no such luck.

It always seems to go one of two ways…

New Guy 1 has done all of his research ahead of time, and knows the general consensus here for a first cycle is to take 500mg of test-e per week for 10 weeks, with an appropriate AI dose, perhaps 0.5mg EOD of adex, and hCG while on cycle during weeks 3-10, then typically a 14 day break to let gear clear (depending on ester, of course) before starting PCT of 4-5 weeks of clomid or nolva. NG1 lays all this out as his plan, and it essentially looks exactly like the basic, vanilla, beginner cycle, and he posts it up for review, then…crickets…or attitudes like “Standard shit Sherlock, Why is this even a thread?” This is what happened to me. The only reason I got a single reply was because I also mentioned the possibility of adding Var in, because I’m a rebel (sarcasm). Oh, and even mentioning the addition of a mild ancillary like Var if it’s your first cycle, is also cause for being sent to a flamey grave.

The rest of the time we deal with New Guy 2 - NG2 claims to have done a bunch of research but is asking noob questions about doses, like how many ML/CC to take instead of MG, doesn’t mention an AI or PCT, nevermind that he may have taken those as a given and is asking purely about AAS dose/compound/ester, the mere fact that he didn’t mention them in his very first post infuriates most of the veteran members here. The problem is this is a longstanding pattern, and it’s clearly not the noobs’ fault if you ask me. What I think the new guys need most often is an education in research. NG2 simply don’t know what he don’t know, and thinking he’s done exhaustive research when he’s not aware of basic doses, AI and PCT protocols is a red flag that he is looking to be spoon-fed. Nobody wants to spoon-feed. But just this once… https://t-nation.com/t/steroid-newbie-cycle-planning/97187

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