And how do you know my HPTA is responding badly to clomid?
Youāre already trying it with the Clomid. I think if itās not working for you then you should think about your options going forward. If TRT worked then you should really think about seeing your doctor and getting back on. There are ways to give you a better chance to remain fertile. Tell your doctor what your goals are and if they are competent theyāll work to try to find you a protocol. No guarantees that you can remain fertile, but right now it sounds like youāve thrown a lot of things at the problem and none of them have worked.
Ok so about three months ago I was responding well to hcgā¦then my levals went back to normalā¦
this time Iāve only took clomid for around 6daysā¦
Would I not need to take it longer than that to see if I can start up HPTA?
Your numbers are underwhelming, your numbers are still scraping the below the bottom of the ranges 6 months after clomid.
Your restart already failed and you couldnāt stand clomid, your only other option is TRT. HCG can be used together with TRT to keep the testes functioning or bring them back from a non-functional state.
There was a period around October I was having sex 3 times a day, I was on hgh then stopped it, could the hgh of shut me down?
Absolutely, HGH controls the production of all the other hormones in the body, including testosterone. During puberty, great amounts of HGH are being secreted by the pituitary gland to have a multitude of effects. ā¦ Thus HGH increases testosterone levels and promotes muscle building and sexual libido.
Why did you stop HGH?
To be honest because it was too expensiveā¦really appreciate your help mateā¦what should I do now? Iāve got clomid and nova ready to go
Please tell me my next move man, im in a works of pain with thisā¦
Iām not sure TRT will fix your HGH issues, thatās a question for KSman. If HGH affects all other hormones and youāre deficient, then it seems to have far reaching effects on other hormones.
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@systemlord I appreciate your honestlyā¦
@KSman any thoughts mate?
Anybody got any take on this? I wouldnāt ask but Iām desperateā¦
@KSman Iām really new to all this so sorry if I come across stupid!
Post a update request in link below and heāll get to you. Heās helping so many guys itās difficult to keep track of everyone.
Ok thanks brother
Copy and paste url above in KSman thread so he has a link to here.
Your welcome.
Just copied and pasted my post there now 
I have a question. Which of these drugs were prescribed by a doctor and which (if any) were sourced, er, elsewhere? Was this all done under a doctorās supervision or no? Iām not judging, Iām just trying to understand the timeline and how you ended up so utterly messed up.
I was told by my doctor to get clomid, he said he couldnāt get it for me, I managed to buy it out of Indiaā¦
Yes it was done under doctor supervision, he has now got me on a detox course for 4weeksā¦
Also prescribed me minerals to drink through your the dayā¦(for 180 days)
Iām all taking Maca, tribullas and libido tablets!
Hey @systemlord quick question where can I find the stickyās?
So did you just try make me feel stupid or was there a point you were trying to make?
Hereās the stickys bud
https://t-nation.com/t/about-the-t-replacement-category/
Scroll down in the link and find the topic you want. You need to click on the thread (topic) you want