It doesn’t matter how or why the USSC panel came to its decision. Obfuscation as usual. It’s not a question of whether Ron Paul was right or wrong. Or whether the USSC is right or wrong. It’s a question of Paul being inconsistent about the constitution. So either explain why you disagree with what I’ve said or just post a facepalm picture and then bugger off.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
It doesn’t matter how or why the USSC panel came to its decision. Obfuscation as usual. It’s not a question of whether Ron Paul was right or wrong. Or whether the USSC is right or wrong. It’s a question of Paul being inconsistent about the constitution. So either explain why you disagree with what I’ve said or just post a facepalm picture and then bugger off.[/quote]
Oh yes it does.
No.
True.
Not true.
Absolutely.
I wont do either, because you a) refuse to do your homework and instead reduce Pauls position to the irrelevant drivel that Romneys or Perrys sound bites actually are and b) refuse to make up for it by killing a Kangoroo with your bare hands.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Last I checked republicans were also the party of smaller government. And I think quite a bit could be solved if the federal government was perhaps cut in half. And of course the nanny state ended permanently.
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Even if they were the party of smaller government [when was this?], the American people aren’t. The beginning of Perry’s demise started with referring his to SS as a “ponzi” scheme. We’ve got Romney basically sounding like a Democrat in it’s defense. The last survey of tea party folk (the tp even!) I’ve seen puts on display the usual malarky about SS and Medicare, “Cut fraud and waste, then leave them alone…” That wouldn’t even come close to making them solvent for the mid/long term…
By 2025 we’re paying interest, SS, and Medicare. Anything else is paid for with whatever borrowed money we can still get. Who is our front runner now? Mr. Romney-care, flip-flop, perfect hair.
Honestly, they’re all terrible candidates. They know they can’t make deep enough cuts to offset zero tax raises, and/or continue to fight these wars (possibly expanding them). We’ve got candidates, but we don’t have any leaders. The two parties, Dumb and Dumber.
We’re done as a super-power. We’re done–regardless of how anybody feels about foreign policy–being the policeman. We’re done with keeping tax rates down. And we’re done with untouchable social programs. We just haven’t caught up to all that, yet. But it 'aint far off.[/quote]
Cheer up Sloth…remember who is really in charge.
[quote]squating_bear wrote:
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Last I checked republicans were also the party of smaller government. And I think quite a bit could be solved if the federal government was perhaps cut in half. And of course the nanny state ended permanently.
[/quote]
Even if they were the party of smaller government [when was this?], the American people aren’t. The beginning of Perry’s demise started with referring to SS as a “ponzi” scheme. We’ve got Romney basically sounding like a Democrat in it’s defense. The last survey of tea party folk (the tp even!) I’ve seen put on display the usual malarky about SS and Medicare, “Cut fraud and waste, then leave them alone…” That wouldn’t even come close to making them solvent for the mid/long term…
By 2025 we’re paying interest, SS, and Medicare. Anything else is paid for with whatever borrowed money we can still get. Who is our front runner now? Mr. Romney-care, flip-flop, perfect hair.
Honestly, they’re all terrible candidates. They know they can’t make deep enough cuts to offset zero tax raises, and/or continue to fight these wars (possibly expanding them). We’ve got candidates, but we don’t have any leaders. The two parties, Dumb and Dumber.
We’re done as a super-power. We’re done, regardless of how anybody feels about foreign policy, being the policeman. We’re done with keeping tax rates down. And we’re done with untouchable social programs. We just haven’t caught up to all that, yet. But it 'aint far off.[/quote]
A couple of things here:
“‘Cut fraud and waste, then leave them alone…’ That wouldn’t even come close to making them solvent for the mid/long term…”
A pyramid scheme is by definition a form a fraud and insolvent. If you take the Government at their word to the SCOTUS at the time of it’s passage, SS is actually just a tax not tied to the “trust fund”. If you believe those government officials that claim the “trust fund” is funded by SS payment, then it is a pyramid scheme.
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And if it is a fraud then we don’t owe it.
And why, oh why hasn’t Ron Paul ever been able to get his audit of the Federal Reserve? He’s been pushing for that thing since ZEB was my age. [/quote]
LOL…maybe it’s a conspiracy? Everything else that surrounds Ron Paul is a conspiracy. Right? RIGHT?
If it wasn’t for that darn media, and Washington insiders and all the other powerful groups that work day and night to keep Paul down-- Why he’d have been President by now!
LMAO
Wow…sometimes I wonder how little old Ron Paul could have such power over the minds of his followers. But then I realize that there is no end to what the young and naive will believe.
Actually, there is probably a real conspiracy surrounding Ron Paul.
Without some occult influence, libertarians could have had a charismatic, young, sexy and potentially dangerous candidate.
There must be someone somewhere who work night and day to keep Ron Paul up.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Last I checked republicans were also the party of smaller government. And I think quite a bit could be solved if the federal government was perhaps cut in half. And of course the nanny state ended permanently.
[/quote]
Even if they were the party of smaller government [when was this?], the American people aren’t. The beginning of Perry’s demise started with referring his to SS as a “ponzi” scheme. We’ve got Romney basically sounding like a Democrat in it’s defense. The last survey of tea party folk (the tp even!) I’ve seen puts on display the usual malarky about SS and Medicare, “Cut fraud and waste, then leave them alone…” That wouldn’t even come close to making them solvent for the mid/long term…
By 2025 we’re paying interest, SS, and Medicare. Anything else is paid for with whatever borrowed money we can still get. Who is our front runner now? Mr. Romney-care, flip-flop, perfect hair.
Honestly, they’re all terrible candidates. They know they can’t make deep enough cuts to offset zero tax raises, and/or continue to fight these wars (possibly expanding them). We’ve got candidates, but we don’t have any leaders. The two parties, Dumb and Dumber.
We’re done as a super-power. We’re done–regardless of how anybody feels about foreign policy–being the policeman. We’re done with keeping tax rates down. And we’re done with untouchable social programs. We just haven’t caught up to all that, yet. But it 'aint far off.[/quote]
Cheer up Sloth…remember who is really in charge.
:)[/quote]
This IS me being cheerful. I’m a real hit at parties.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]squating_bear wrote:
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Last I checked republicans were also the party of smaller government. And I think quite a bit could be solved if the federal government was perhaps cut in half. And of course the nanny state ended permanently.
[/quote]
Even if they were the party of smaller government [when was this?], the American people aren’t. The beginning of Perry’s demise started with referring to SS as a “ponzi” scheme. We’ve got Romney basically sounding like a Democrat in it’s defense. The last survey of tea party folk (the tp even!) I’ve seen put on display the usual malarky about SS and Medicare, “Cut fraud and waste, then leave them alone…” That wouldn’t even come close to making them solvent for the mid/long term…
By 2025 we’re paying interest, SS, and Medicare. Anything else is paid for with whatever borrowed money we can still get. Who is our front runner now? Mr. Romney-care, flip-flop, perfect hair.
Honestly, they’re all terrible candidates. They know they can’t make deep enough cuts to offset zero tax raises, and/or continue to fight these wars (possibly expanding them). We’ve got candidates, but we don’t have any leaders. The two parties, Dumb and Dumber.
We’re done as a super-power. We’re done, regardless of how anybody feels about foreign policy, being the policeman. We’re done with keeping tax rates down. And we’re done with untouchable social programs. We just haven’t caught up to all that, yet. But it 'aint far off.[/quote]
A couple of things here:
“‘Cut fraud and waste, then leave them alone…’ That wouldn’t even come close to making them solvent for the mid/long term…”
A pyramid scheme is by definition a form a fraud and insolvent. If you take the Government at their word to the SCOTUS at the time of it’s passage, SS is actually just a tax not tied to the “trust fund”. If you believe those government officials that claim the “trust fund” is funded by SS payment, then it is a pyramid scheme.
[/quote]
And if it is a fraud then we don’t owe it.
And why, oh why hasn’t Ron Paul ever been able to get his audit of the Federal Reserve? He’s been pushing for that thing since ZEB was my age. [/quote]
LOL…maybe it’s a conspiracy? Everything else that surrounds Ron Paul is a conspiracy. Right? RIGHT?
If it wasn’t for that darn media, and Washington insiders and all the other powerful groups that work day and night to keep Paul down-- Why he’d have been President by now!
LMAO
Wow…sometimes I wonder how little old Ron Paul could have such power over the minds of his followers. But then I realize that there is no end to what the young and naive will believe.
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hahahaha
Is that your best answer ZEB?