[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
It is amazing, Sloth, that despite the brevity of my post you still manage to put words in my mouth.[/quote]
I didn’t, and need not put words in your mouth. All I had to do was quote you.
You sure do mean them. Haven’t doubted that all.
But you did make a moral judgment…I don’t even think most of your atheist comrades (well, I guess you’re a ‘deist’) would deny that your op is full of moral indignation. Just stop with the denial already. Now, when this was pointed out, you admit moral consideration of god(s) character really doesn’t serve a point in the consideration of the Christian God. And that would be in whatever way you would like to present him, actually. Or, any gods, for that matter.
A god, or gods, that bend the forces of nature to his/their will is the moral authority of the universe, after all. And, not you.
Further, you had until this point, dogmatically told us what god(s) wouldn’t do. How they wouldn’t act, interfere (if at all), and or reveal themselves. You’ve implied that god(s) would have to do these things in a way which bend to you, and not to their own divine selves. Which doesn’t makes sense, considering your flirtation with the idea of a being whose will subjugates even the forces of nature. Now you soften, a bit, in light of my criticism
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And “could” God suddenly decide to interfere after letting us mind our own business for ages? Sure.
“Could” he choose a roundabout illogical way to do it, for some mysterious reason? Sure.[/quote]
“Sure.” So then, you haven’t offered anything to debate. You simply gave your morally charged condemnation of the Christian point-of-you, as seen by you.
Now, why are you still using words like ‘illogical,’ as a might-as-well-be infinitely ignorant mortal, to prejudge the ends of a being who bends forces of nature–including time–to his will? Something that sees all things, all times, all beginnings, and all ends? You again, claiming to know nothing (yet also contradicting yourself) of this will, and to the depth of knowledge of all time, claim to know what such a being must logically conclude and act on. And in what manner. Or, at the least, what would be illogical for this being. In many ways you have claimed to know your unknowable will, by limiting it to your very limited will and view. And this is why ‘sure’ has entered into the possible character of your nature-bending will/god.