That’s terrible! I feel bad for the family.
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How corporate media ish.from you. To cut and edit my entire point.
Is what I said. And it is different from calling you stupid.
This was posted 15 hours ago from CNN.
This is finally a piece on it like 3 days later or 8 hours ago. Or when I went to sleep.
Please note that they keep saying that motives are unknown still. They are still way behind. From what Crowder posted yesterday about the motives.
Who are we lol? Legitimate sources? You mean the sources that played the Steeler Dosier for 4 fucking years? You mean the guys who said Joe Rogan took a horse dewormer? The guys that were luying for Kyle Rittenhouse even with a live stream available of the court room? The guys that said China virus is racist and by the way I have to give that to a CNN reported who pushed the investigation for it. He appeared on Joe Rogan talking about it and a couple of weeks later it was not a conspiracy theory anymore. The New York times, who leaked a client lawyer privilege information 1 hour after FBI was raiding Project Veritas?
You cant have legitimate unbiased news, while this madness is running. Having fact checkers directly working for the democrats and corporate media not hold accountable.
Corporate media is not a legitimate source. And I call them corporate, because there a few boomers watching TV and that is their viewership. Mainstream Media is located on online platforms and have times more viewership.
Lets not talk about the biggest scam of 2021 the Jan 6th event. It will go way off topic. And we have a topic for that.
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Because his motives are racial. You cant run for an year that Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist, while having no prove for that. Prosecution had his phone and could not even find a single racist meme on his phone. While Brooks has a history of racism on his facebook account. It is about time to call out black racism. They did not call it when they were assaulting Asians during the lock downs. But it is time now. Because corporate media will not shut up on the “what if” game on Kyle Rittenhouse.
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“We” are people that know shit isn’t going the way it is reported to be, but you’re making us all look fucking crazy. When there’s something fishy, root it out and address it in the EXACT OPPOSITE way you’re doing, then it will have some legs to stand on. Everything you’re bringing up is fully within reason to question, but that does NOT mean you can just yell it at whoever will give you the time of day.
Fucking be smarter and bring evidence that doesn’t involve sheer conjecture. The burden of proof lies upon the accuser.
Or just keep being combative and yelling at whoever disagrees with your unfounded claims. That has been working well so far. Making an argument and arguing are NOT the same thing; try having an educated conversation about something if you want your point to be heard, rather than be dismissed as Qanon bullshit.
I’m done with this post because its devolved into nothing but you acting like a fucking lunatic and dragging the rest of us skeptics down with you.
It’s really not. The clause beginning with “because” is independent.
Not that you need it but:
I just want to make sure you know that you chose to be stupid. Not my fault, your keyboard your choice.
Listen here, sir. Before lecturing me.
I gave a link full of sources. I gave time frame following CNN publications and Crowders publications. I have argued pretty well and stated with a solid proof what I wanted to say.
If you only made the effort to read my links and timeframes…
I will sum it up for you.
Day 1 CNN reports on the tragedy.
Day 1 crowder reports on the name with a mug shot.
Day 2 CNN reports on the name
Day 2 crowder reports on criminal history and motives
Day 2 a few hours later CNN reports on criminal history, still no motivation claims
Meanwhile CNN plays what if game with Kille Ryttenhouse.
Meanwhile I am here claiming this is a parody of reporting. What if here was a white guy and black victims. It would be insane.
I do have a question though:
You aren’t even from the US. Why are putting so much energy into a tragedy that happened in small town USA? And why are you so interested in the racial tensions the US is facing?
Or is it just a convenient excuse to spout drivel?
At least I can make the choice…
I can’t imagine what his family is going through.
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But, @ins, let’s keep railing on “corporate media” while promoting guys who every time they offer an opinion just give an arrow to put in the defense attorney’s quiver to increase the likelihood of reasonable doubt. That’s why those kind of talking heads are dangerous.
I have answered the question. Because culture comes from America. For example EURO this summer, everyone was kneeling before games for BLM. They dont even know what BLM stands for. If they knew, nobody in Europe would kneel for that. They just thought they kneel for anti racism.
But you aren’t talking about changes in culture. You are talking about “the media” like it’s some bogeyman we need to check under our beds for every night.
And had you staged your argument as you just did, it likely would have had far more impact. The issue here is simply that the way CNN approached their reporting shows nothing more than a reasonable reservation to stay on the side of truth.
You are correct that had the races been reversed, CNN would likely have jumped to motives much sooner than they did. It is understood that there is a ‘buffer’ reserved for POC regarding racial bias that white people are not granted. Yes, this is due to the narrative that has been spun, but also because there’s virtually no recourse for calling a white person racist without basis.
I have no issue with you pointing out that racial bias, but it is important that you realize there is a HUGE criticism of white people crying every time something anti-white happens; that they only cared about racism when it started affecting them. Many people, including myself, see these ‘anti-white’ biases as racist, and take issue with it for the sole reason that anti-white is still racist. When these biases are being argued against, it is really important to be calm, informed, and bringing a well thought-out argument to the table… if it isn’t handled this way, it always comes off as a white person crying about racism against them.
What I’m getting at is instead of arguing “well if he was black…” you would fare better if you compared how long it took CNN to report on Rittenhouse’s motives, to how long it took them to report on this dude’s motives. Let the evidence stand on its own and people are usually capable of forming their own conclusions; trying to form their conclusions FOR them usually doesn’t work. Unless their already brainwashed like most MSNBC or FOX viewers.
First off, all of those whose knee jerk reaction is to politicize every tragic event, or any event, are the problem. They are also mindless beings who rely on YouTube personalities to tell them what to think. Crowder? A mediocre, at best, comedian is seen as some intellectual source of truth and knowledgeable? People need to renew their library cards.
Second, why the rush to slap a motive on this? How about waiting for the police to investigate and determine it? Why speculate when eventually, the truth will come out? Some of you have this need for instant bias gratification. All you do is make uneducated people like Crowder richer.
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I think you need to look at the concentration of media ownership, especially is the USA.
These are people heavily involved in the influence of politics, both through political campaign funding and propaganda rather than reporting the news.
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Come on Z. You really think some of the people won’t notice events and their relationship to other events in recent history, rather than viewing them as unrelated, isolated incidents of violence?
All someone like Crowder does is point out the hypocrisy of the MSM. They are not telling you what to think like MSM, they are showing a parallel perspective. They’re not always perfect, or correct. Anyone with half a brain can make their own decision about who is telling the truth or not.
There are a lot more mindless beings that rely MSM to tell them what to think, and that’s much more dangerous and influential than giving people a bigger picture of events.
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He also takes a biased approach. He wants views, i.e. money, just like corporate media news.
No. It’s an opposite perspective for the sake of divisiveness because that equals ratings. They are entertainers. And perspective does not mean truth or facts. Unless Crowder is one of the “my truth” snowflakes.
The idea that a reporter, who has been talking to the police, saying that the motives are unclear for the time being is somehow political, is silly. Do people want journalism or a perpetual storm of op-eds?
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I understand this is the case, but folks should also be rational enough to recognize this fact (I know that’s a lot to ask of the human race).
Everyone is biased and our brains are hardwired to be that way. It’s almost impossible to think around because those biases helped our survival way back in the day.
Amen, my friend.
It is looking more and more like it, based on the evidence. What a horrible scene. This guy intentionally drove into the parade and killed people, just for the hell of it? I don’t know what else you call it. His motive has not been released and the corporate news is already shuffling this event out of the headlines. Just like they did with Astroworld, just like they do with anything that does not fit their narrative.
I think it has become evidently clear, the corporate media lies all the time. It’s state propaganda for the democratic party, full stop. We know it, they know it, every politically active person knows it. They lie all the time, it’s verifiable and people need to quit pretending that’s not true, otherwise your own credibility suffers.
The reason why the corporate media lying is so dangerous is because most people don’t pay attention. So when they do, they go to legacy media, and have no idea these once mostly trustworthy apparatuses have changed to pushing a narrative, not giving the “news”. If there is the possibility of a political effect, there will be lies about the subject.
People now regularly walk around believing things that are verifiably not true. And that is a nightmare for everybody, no matter what you believe or which way you lean. If you are not dealing in facts or reality, things will turn out bad for you. And if you are dealing in reality, but the people around you are not, bad outcomes are likely.
Truth and facts do not suffer fools gladly.
Why don’t we try the experiment of dealing with the actual facts of this case and not the conjecture of the media spin, from either side? Maybe if we all agree on the basic facts, we won’t call each other names and shit.
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