[quote]CAP1015 wrote:
[quote]xxrob5xx wrote:
[quote]CAP1015 wrote:
I watch them all…I also write critiques for two different sources on the shows, primarily on the investigative techniques.
Here is the sad but true facts, all of the shows including Ghost Hunters have had instances of faking evidence and/or doing dramatic scene re-shoots.
Ghost Hunters caved into the pressure to have more evidence show up, since they have been outed on youtube and other former cast members did tell-all stories, they have reverted back to their original formula and you now have shows where they are doing more debunking and that there are some shows where the evidence just isn’t there.
Ghost Lab…they claim to be scientific, not so much, LOL
The Dead files has shown some promise, however I’m concerned that the staff “feeds” the pyschic girl hints to get her to catch on to what they are trying to extract, for example in the first one I saw the guy who did the murder was in prison and she kept saying that there was an evil spirit and didn’t change her story until the assistant kept asking and getting more pointed “is the person you are channeling dead or alive”, finally she said " I think he may be alive" and the assistant, obviously relieved said, “maybe so”…
the problem with all of these shows is:
First.) there is no “control shot” i.e. camera outside the filming lines where they can film and watch the entire production including the film crew/staff. Also while they do use “time stamps” we don’t have any access to verify that the scenes shot and the evidence extracted take place as shown due to lack of the control shots.
I agree about the control shot. There are no static cameras filming everything. There is always something that happens and the camera never captures it.
Second.) The investigative time frame is really too small, why just 8-9 hours? The best method is to use time lapse over several days. Also why at night, other than it is dramatic…if you notice most stories and occurances of the paranormal happen to people during the day…there is no rule that the ghost can only play at night.
I have discussed this with other people as well. How can you do a paranormal invetsigation in just one night? You need to stay at a location for a week atleast.
Third.) Selective sampling…they expect you to accept evidence of paranormal every time they get a “positive” response to “make a noise” i.e. a knock, etc…with that assumption then you must accept that every time that they don’t get a response is a “negative” or a “fail”, and therefore when compared, the positive responses are usually minimal to the overall sample.
Fourth.) The use of scientific equipment for things it was not designed for and then claim that they are using sciencetific techniques…the most obvious misuse is of the thermal camera’s…Ghosts by all descriptions are “cold” or " are less than air"…therefore, in most cases they should show up as colder, not hotter than the those items around them, and also they more than likely would not have a temperature at all, and therefore not be detectable by the camera.
Ghost Adventures hires special engineers to make things for them like the voice box and infrared cameras.
I could go on and on…but in summary most of the shows have been corrupted by producers and the need for ratings/drama. I do beleive many of these guys people have good intentions.
I also believe there is some things that are paranormal and are difficult to explain, that is why I hate to see the process all fucked up on some of these shows…
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Where can I see evidence of these shows staging or exxagerating their evidence?
I was a huge fan of GA but lately it just seems to be so boring. Ony EVP’s and Zak’s over dramatic narration is just getting old.
Dead files has been catching my attention as of late.
What ever happened to Paranormal State? Now these guys in my opinion were the real deal.[/quote]
Just google “Ghost Hunters fake” or “ghost hunters scam”, you can do this for any show and you can watch literally dozens of clips on You-tube and also read several well written articles.
Now for Paranormal State, have you noticed it has not been renewed? The reason why, is that it has been investigated and confirmed that the psychic “chip” on almost every occasion met with either the families or had been provided “case files” prepared by the staff and/or those requesting assistance prior to the filming of the episodes…so his accuracy and readings now have to be considered at best tainted and at worst out and out fraud…also it has been admitted to by the cast, crew and the PSU dude that is their leader that he and Chip actually placed cold budweiser beers in the bed to show cold spots, however they did only to “recreate” what they had seen but failed to get on tape. The family of the man who committed suicide and was supposedly in the Barn, filed a complaint and will no longer comment on the show. They had found out that for weeks prior to the show, paranormal state staffers had been visiting their town and friends doing interviews with them to gather information. They had instructed people not to tell the family as not to upset them and that they needed this information to continue with the show…but in fact they used the information to give to CHip who looked like he was a spot on psychic…If you are interested in reading more, google Paranormal state fake or “chip coffey fake”…
It really is sad what they did to some of the families they were supposedly trying to help…
They are some also really good information on the faking of the “haunging in connecticut”…I’m not sure all the shows start out this way, but producers and ratings win out over integrity every time…sorry to be a buzzkill, LOL!
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I will look into this for sure.