Was the Moon Landing a Hoax?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
<<< For the record, I have never been for programs like welfare where residents draw a livelihood without working. I am, however, in favor of working welfare. >>>

It’s statements like this that give me encouragement that you will eventually grow out of this boneheaded point of view.

Kinda tragically comical actually. Welfare has very successfully created a permanent underclass with the right to vote other people’s money into their own pockets and the hacks that put it their into office.

I agree that welfare is an evil thing.

However, being liberal is not “boneheaded.” It is liberals that are typically the driving force behind the most sensational of positive events. Yes, I said that. The French Revolution, the American Revolution, the ending of slavery, workers’ rights… I’ll take it all.

Paine was a visionary revolutionary who thankfully had minimal impact on the final product. FDR was on the power receiving end of his abominable philosophy. They are rarely cured.

His abominable philosophy… amazing. The guy is considered by most to be one of the greatest presidents the country has ever had.

If you think these two were terrible, than I’m on the right track, thanks. [/quote]

Hold on a second there sporty. “Liberal” then meant something light years apart from what it means today. I’m trying to keep a straight face. You are not going to sit over there n try n tell me that the ideology of contemporary western liberals was in any way significantly represented in the engine of the American revolution, the abolition of slavery or even workers rights which may be seen as a minute drift in that direction I suppose. Although unions now are largely blood sucking empires no better than the corporations they pretend to be holier than.

When I say Paine was a visionary I mean that in a positive way. He laid out the single most powerful push that motivated the colonists to stand their ground and fight for independence. However, he wound up disappointed that his vision of what the new country should become was not shared by the majority of influential thinkers of the day. A thing I am most grateful for.

I don’t care what anybody else thinks of FDR. The guy was an out of control tyrant who fancied himself a king in a nation ill designed for monarchy.

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[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
orion wrote:
DrSkeptix wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
orion wrote:

But hey, why not debate the voices in your head?

The voices in my head informed me you were a buffoon - clearly, the voices are to be trusted.

I came to the same conclusion, but based on Geometric Logic and the True Axioms!

Every time someone is not able to attack a certain school of thought without misrepresenting it AND ridiculing the parts he did not understand I just know that a) this school of thought has a lot to offer and b) said someone has more of an emotional than intellectual response.

So please, carry on.

Austrian economics is a valuable tool, but I also understand the importance of willfully ignorant sheeple.

Now who is the internet psychiatrist?
And I suppose I am “sheeple” when you blindly follow the Lewnytarians of Auburn? Now that is a reach, Herr Mooncalf.

It was not the Austrian Clown School I was ridiculing, but you, Your Fraudulence. Do not confuse yourself with some other ridiculous abstraction–you stand apart.[/quote]

No Darling, you were ridiculing someone else, using your same old tired strawmen.

Please carry on.

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[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/en/kids/spinoffs2.shtml

Of course, it is also possible that these examples are just a step in the process to fill the heads of future generations with lies.[/quote]

Nice link. So much theoretical science was also developed as a result of the space program. A great deal of computer science was also developed.

EDIT: Heres another link of nasa spinoffs:

http://www.thespaceplace.com/nasa/spinoffs.html

EDIT: Here is a quote from the page:

It has been conservatively estimated by U.S. space experts that for every dollar the U.S. spends on R and D in the space program, it receives $7 back in the form of corporate and personal income taxes from increased jobs and economic growth.

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[quote]wushu_1984 wrote:
kaaleppi wrote:
http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/en/kids/spinoffs2.shtml

Of course, it is also possible that these examples are just a step in the process to fill the heads of future generations with lies.

Nice link. So much theoretical science was also developed as a result of the space program. A great deal of computer science was also developed.

EDIT: Heres another link of nasa spinoffs:

http://www.thespaceplace.com/nasa/spinoffs.html

EDIT: Here is a quote from the page:

It has been conservatively estimated by U.S. space experts that for every dollar the U.S. spends on R and D in the space program, it receives $7 back in the form of corporate and personal income taxes from increased jobs and economic growth.[/quote]

Well that is just suuuuper.

So all we need is more government spending to pave the way to prosperity!

At that guaranteed return we should be leveraged to the gills!

To put it another way: Bullshit.

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Buzz Aldrin has a message for you non-believers:

ha!

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Buzz Aldrin has a message for you non-believers:

ha!
[/quote]

Yeah, that’s classic lol!!!

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Buzz Aldrin has a message for you non-believers:

ha!
[/quote]

Awesome. Great post.

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
orion wrote:
wushu_1984 wrote:
kaaleppi wrote:
http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/en/kids/spinoffs2.shtml

Of course, it is also possible that these examples are just a step in the process to fill the heads of future generations with lies.

Nice link. So much theoretical science was also developed as a result of the space program. A great deal of computer science was also developed.

EDIT: Heres another link of nasa spinoffs:

http://www.thespaceplace.com/nasa/spinoffs.html

EDIT: Here is a quote from the page:

It has been conservatively estimated by U.S. space experts that for every dollar the U.S. spends on R and D in the space program, it receives $7 back in the form of corporate and personal income taxes from increased jobs and economic growth.

Well that is just suuuuper.

So all we need is more government spending to pave the way to prosperity!

At that guaranteed return we should be leveraged to the gills!

To put it another way: Bullshit.

Does our government spending have anything to do with you?

No…I didn’t think so.
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Your federal reserve just wrecked the global economy so I guess the answer is yes.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Your federal reserve just wrecked the global economy so I guess the answer is yes.[/quote]

You know, I never understood why they pull out the “your not American” card. Everything they do affects a good chunk of the world. A lot of countries copy the FDA drug restrictions almost word for word.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
orion wrote:
Your federal reserve just wrecked the global economy so I guess the answer is yes.

You know, I never understood why they pull out the “your not American” card. Everything they do affects a good chunk of the world. A lot of countries copy the FDA drug restrictions almost word for word.[/quote]

Well Mick 28 is hardly “they”.

“They” only bring it up when they think I have no idea what I am talking about which is fair I guess when it comes to things you must have personally experienced.

However, I rarely post about the state of American highways or American suburban indoor plumbing but about things they themselves only know from the media. It is sometimes hilarious that they think that they have any deeper insight because they are only 2000 miles away whereas I am 6000 miles away.

They, themselves, know 99,99999 of all the things that happen in the US only from the media.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
orion wrote:
Your federal reserve just wrecked the global economy so I guess the answer is yes.

You know, I never understood why they pull out the “your not American” card. Everything they do affects a good chunk of the world. A lot of countries copy the FDA drug restrictions almost word for word.[/quote]

And also you have to understand that Americans are special.

They will even make socialism work.

:-).

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I read somewhere that the astronauts put mirrors on the moon so that scientists can target them with lasers, all for the purpose of proving that they’d been there. Doesn’t our government think that we would trust them? ;)[/quote]

The mirrors were put there to measure the distance from the earth to the moon, Since then we have found out that the moon is slowly getting further away.

This still doesnt prove Man has been there because robots could have placed them.