Warning to Australians

Pharma
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[quote]Magarhe wrote:
…the kind of person who decides to proceed (ordering steroids) for those kinds of benefits is sufferring a psychological deficit of some kind, or just plain ignorant of the consequences. For someone to have that low self esteem to need this substance so badly they would take this level of risk is a bit disturbing…

…There is a big difference between someone using if the product is legal and if it is not legal …People who do so are kidding themselves that they are doing so safely, and kidding yourself over this kind of thing is a sign of psychological problems.

Steroids are in my opinion for people who are physically deficient somehow … the elderly, the effeminate, the weak. They can do wonders for improving the health of such people.
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WTF? Don’t even get me started…You’re on the steroids section of the board, and you’re saying that people have major psychological issues just because they order them when they’re still illegal? Legality is not the point of whether we think something is bad or not. We think for ourselves here and take calculated risks if we choose to do so.

So you think that just because butt implants are legal, that a man who has a hard time building up his glutes should spend tens of thousands of dollars on getting butt implants, instead of using steroids and making the effort to actually do squats?

Sure, you won’t get in trouble with the law for having butt implants versus the steroids, but I think that the latter is a far better option for image enhancement.

Steroids are only for the weak and physically deficient? I agree that they do help those who are weaker or deficient, and that is a good use. I did have some self esteem issues before I started using AAS, and now I do not regret using steroids at all; I feel more self respect at this size than I did when I was a skinny weakling.

But I don’t think that there is anything wrong with a man taking testosterone to become more of a man.

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[quote]Magarhe wrote:
I am not on my high horse at all I just think it is nuts to take that risk vs the benefits. The risks are extreme - the potential benefits are very minimal

Steroids are in my opinion for people who are physically deficient somehow … the elderly, the effeminate, the weak. They can do wonders for improving the health of such people.

If they could be banned from sports I’d vote on that, if they could backtest on past athletes and erase all records set, I’d vote on that too. I doubt that could ever be done and there are always other substances that are being used in sports so it is probably better to let it run rampant.

If they were legalised you would see improved health benefits for those who need them, you would see a huge uptake in useage amongst people who otherwise would not use them, a lot of people who currently consider themselves big and strong (through useage) would fade into mediocrity in comparison to the new users, you would probably see a large polarisation of society between users and non-users. You would definetely get more teenage users which would be a disaster.

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In terms of risks vs benefits I don’t see how the risk is extreme? If you get it sent to a friends house on a different name, there is NO WAY that customs/police can LINK YOU to the importation, BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT, nor can they link the person who lives at the residence if they deny everything. At law, everything must be BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT.

Extreme? I think not, maybe high at this point in time, but not 1 month ago, I know up to 4 people who got in their orders.

Now, moving onto your anti-steroid argument. I used to think EXACTLY like you, I was very anti steroid, but guess what? I was also ignorant. I had gained 20kgs in less than 2 years, I went from skinny, to decent/borderline big (95kgs) all NATURALLY, eating 6-7times a day, training based on the compounds. I DO plan to use steroids in the not-too-distant future.

If you actually research steroids, you will find that their side effects are firstly, minimal, secondly, avoidable, thirdly, temporary. If you develop a safe cycle with proper PCT, this will not be detrimental to your health in the long term. So if that is the case, taking steroids is nothing more than a means to accelerate your progress, just like taking protein powder or creatine.

Another point you make, about big guys fading into mediocrity if everyone could take the gear, this is NOT the case. You think people get massive after 1 or 2 cycles? I know people that have run Test/Deca/Dbol and put on only 2-5kgs and have lost it all on cessation of the cycle. Your diet and training needs to be spot on, steroids are not a wonder drug of sorts, they simply accelerate any progress you are making ASSUMING you are progressing to begin with.

Open up your eyes, stop being so ignorant. Research and come to your own conclusions, don’t believe what you hear or see in the media. You just might surprise yourself.

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Good post, Lift…

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Excellent post Johnny. Thank you.
And please don’t mess up this post by expressing your bullshit opinions and nonconstructive horse-shit comments. No one gives a flying phuck.

Again thank you Johnny.

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I just had a question regarding ordering to one’s own name, to a different address. This is not advisable either.

Your name is your identity - make sure that nothing leads back to your real identity.

I added in that note to my safety tips above…

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Good thread.
I was thinking of ordering from the site before I came across this.

I’ll just have to rely on my dodgey source that takes 3 months before he gets my stuff. :frowning:

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Not really relevant to me in the UK but excellent post JB. Be careful guys.

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[quote]Renton wrote:
Not really relevant to me in the UK but excellent post JB. Be careful guys.[/quote]

Just had to rub it in didn’t you :wink:

I just wish they would realise how driving it further underground here makes it so much worse.

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Actually here the postman delivers it to your door, takes the money, gives you a receipt and you are done.

Have to love the places where everything is legal to do.

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Go thailand do it there, safest place in the world for doing a course.

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[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Not only has gear been seized, but they have been visited by customs agents in the early hours of the morning. In the worst cases, they have been raided by law enforcement, had their houses turned upside down, their computers and mobile phones taken away, and been given a pending court date for prosecution. I have heard about 3 cases of customs visits and raids to people ordering in Australia within the last 3 days. One person who experienced a raid said that customs were laughing at how they raid people first thing in the morning, and that they do it just to freak people out. They come any time between 4am to 8am.[/quote]
what a pack of cowardly, sissy-punk little pieces of excrement…Go gun to gun with real criminals? Not! People constantly bad-mouth Mexican Federales, but they show more guts and integrity fighting crime than these chicken-necked customs pantywaists! It’s assholes like these that give the scum of the world an excuse to smack-talk the real cops out there, working to protect the public, not harass them over non-violent techical violations…