Video Games Make You Less Manly?

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
My junior year (fall semester) in college, I played and finished “Descent”- the real first “no gravity” 3-axis game. I got a 4.0 that semester.

Game gave me nightmares and the soundtrack is still creepy. I remember catching myself trying to peek around corners on the screen (obviously futile).

Ever go to the beach and surf/body-surf/boogie-board all day and get tumbled around, then you go home to sleep and you keep waking up because you feel like you’re getting tumbled? That’s what it was like at the time.

I’ve dreamed a lot of maps and landscapes over the years. lol.

Played a lot of “BoogerMan” that year, too.[/quote]

I used to have dreams of both Tomb Raider and God of War. It was usually after getting to some level with a puzzle that stumped me at first. It was like my mind wouldn’t let it go. The funny thing is, when that happened, I always solved the puzzle next time I played it.[/quote]

Same here BIG reason why I loved the Raider and GOW series is the puzzle solving.

How do you feel about the Raider reboot?[/quote]

I’ll get it…just because it was the first “new age” video game that got me back into playing.

What I mean is, there was like a good 5-10 years there where they didn’t know whether to focus games on kids or adults…so the only thing selling was Madden in majority. Tomb Raider came out, gave some tits to Indiana Jones and became a smash hit with the college crowd back then…who all grew up into the 30 year olds playing now.

Had it not been for Tomb Raider, I am sure I wold have become one of those people who thought games were for kids.

The puzzle solving of both that and GOW was just perfect…not tedious and unoriginal.

I would honestly have dreams of some of those environments, especially on certain levels where I just couldn’t figure out…and the answer was some simple thing I was overthinking.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
My junior year (fall semester) in college, I played and finished “Descent”- the real first “no gravity” 3-axis game. I got a 4.0 that semester.

Game gave me nightmares and the soundtrack is still creepy. I remember catching myself trying to peek around corners on the screen (obviously futile).

Ever go to the beach and surf/body-surf/boogie-board all day and get tumbled around, then you go home to sleep and you keep waking up because you feel like you’re getting tumbled? That’s what it was like at the time.

I’ve dreamed a lot of maps and landscapes over the years. lol.

Played a lot of “BoogerMan” that year, too.[/quote]

I used to have dreams of both Tomb Raider and God of War. It was usually after getting to some level with a puzzle that stumped me at first. It was like my mind wouldn’t let it go. The funny thing is, when that happened, I always solved the puzzle next time I played it.[/quote]

Same here BIG reason why I loved the Raider and GOW series is the puzzle solving.

How do you feel about the Raider reboot?[/quote]

I’ll get it…just because it was the first “new age” video game that got me back into playing.

What I mean is, there was like a good 5-10 years there where they didn’t know whether to focus games on kids or adults…so the only thing selling was Madden in majority. Tomb Raider came out, gave some tits to Indiana Jones and became a smash hit with the college crowd back then…who all grew up into the 30 year olds playing now.

Had it not been for Tomb Raider, I am sure I wold have become one of those people who thought games were for kids.

The puzzle solving of both that and GOW was just perfect…not tedious and unoriginal.

I would honestly have dreams of some of those environments, especially on certain levels where I just couldn’t figure out…and the answer was some simple thing I was overthinking.[/quote]

Doesnt it kind of piss you off that they do not make more games with that type of “element”? Instead of just being a break in the action?

What about Uncharted 2? I cant remember if you commented on that one?

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[quote]Edgy wrote:
::::::::::::confession time::::::::::::::

when super mario bros came out, I would play with my kids, who were 4 & 6, and we had alot of fun.

then they started beating me.

then they started making fun of me.

then they would flip a coin, and the loser would waste his time playing with me.

then…they started offering up instructions, and would coach me, while slowing down their game.

it was very demeaning.

Then, we got Madden - and I routinely would have my ass handed to me by my then 9 and 11 year old kids.

and it was a repeat of above.

Then, we got Xbox, and Halo was our universe.

and it was a repeat of above.

does anyone see a pattern?

Look, my kids have both finished thier undergrad degrees, are working on post-grad work while working full time, I am sure that Vid games did not damage them or inhibit their ability to interact with others.

but it did give them the opportunity to look upon dear old dad as a useless fuck.

feel better SSC?[/quote]

AHAHHAHA, so awesome!!! My kid (he’s 5) beats my dad at everything. I can kick his ass though…

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Never played UNcharted, but with the hype I may get into it.

Games I’ve played and love:
Infamous (very original and cool game play)
Tomb Raider( Back in the day…not so much with the later games)
GTA San Andreas (hilarious, bloody, fun)
God Of War (if it weren’t for the fact that this is only on Play station, Kratos would rule the world).
Batman Arkham Asylum (I would NOT say this game has great replay value…it doesn’t…but it was great the one time through)
Mortal Kombat (AWESOME fighting game play…my friends love it even if they don’t have systems).
Assassin’s Creed (if you don’t know by now, you need to be slapped)

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Never played UNcharted, but with the hype I may get into it.

Games I’ve played and love:
Infamous (very original and cool game play)
Tomb Raider( Back in the day…not so much with the later games)
GTA San Andreas (hilarious, bloody, fun)
God Of War (if it weren’t for the fact that this is only on Play station, Kratos would rule the world).
Batman Arkham Asylum (I would NOT say this game has great replay value…it doesn’t…but it was great the one time through)
Mortal Kombat (AWESOME fighting game play…my friends love it even if they don’t have systems).
Assassin’s Creed (if you don’t know by now, you need to be slapped)[/quote]

Okay Uncharted 1 was Okay, didnt like the fighting engine. It is 3rd person action game, Uncharted 2 was 100 times better graphics and fighting engine, it also mini puzzles.

Think Tomb Raider with a smart ass guy as the lead. Knowing what you like then yes you would like the 2nd one. Third one comes out this year.

Not open world sandbox, but basically just like Tomb Raider.

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Any other Baldur’s Gate 2 fan? I know there’s an user around with a Sarevok avatar…

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I actually pay attention to my dreams. Sometimes I feel subconscious anxiety caused from doing something I don’t like or because I have an inner fight about doing something or not. This causes me to have dreams about natural disasters, war or just me killing people, although most times it’s in self-defense.

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I have a book you may like, can’t think of the title. Will pm you when I get back to the casa mucho later. Unless of course this thread is still on brainwaves.[/quote]

Please do so. I’m very interested in all about dreaming, I think it’s a quite cool topic.
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Will do. It covers general interpretations, broad character meanings and using lucid dreaming to your advantage, be it beating a game or working through something else.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Never played UNcharted, but with the hype I may get into it.

Games I’ve played and love:
Infamous (very original and cool game play)
Tomb Raider( Back in the day…not so much with the later games)
GTA San Andreas (hilarious, bloody, fun)
God Of War (if it weren’t for the fact that this is only on Play station, Kratos would rule the world).
Batman Arkham Asylum (I would NOT say this game has great replay value…it doesn’t…but it was great the one time through)
Mortal Kombat (AWESOME fighting game play…my friends love it even if they don’t have systems).
Assassin’s Creed (if you don’t know by now, you need to be slapped)[/quote]

Play the Uncharted games. I’m about to go back through and replay both of them in preparation of the new game. They’re fucking fantastic.

[quote]Edgy wrote:
::::::::::::confession time::::::::::::::

when super mario bros came out, I would play with my kids, who were 4 & 6, and we had alot of fun.

then they started beating me.

then they started making fun of me.

then they would flip a coin, and the loser would waste his time playing with me.

then…they started offering up instructions, and would coach me, while slowing down their game.

it was very demeaning.

Then, we got Madden - and I routinely would have my ass handed to me by my then 9 and 11 year old kids.

and it was a repeat of above.

Then, we got Xbox, and Halo was our universe.

and it was a repeat of above.

does anyone see a pattern?

Look, my kids have both finished thier undergrad degrees, are working on post-grad work while working full time, I am sure that Vid games did not damage them or inhibit their ability to interact with others.

but it did give them the opportunity to look upon dear old dad as a useless fuck.

feel better SSC?[/quote]

Lol, the truth finally comes full-circle! :stuck_out_tongue: It’s okay, I do understand. I was terrible at baseball (see: tee-ball) as a kid and still to this day detest the game, hahaha.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Never played UNcharted, but with the hype I may get into it.

Games I’ve played and love:
Infamous (very original and cool game play)
Tomb Raider( Back in the day…not so much with the later games)
GTA San Andreas (hilarious, bloody, fun)
God Of War (if it weren’t for the fact that this is only on Play station, Kratos would rule the world).
Batman Arkham Asylum (I would NOT say this game has great replay value…it doesn’t…but it was great the one time through)
Mortal Kombat (AWESOME fighting game play…my friends love it even if they don’t have systems).
Assassin’s Creed (if you don’t know by now, you need to be slapped)[/quote]

Okay Uncharted 1 was Okay, didnt like the fighting engine. It is 3rd person action game, Uncharted 2 was 100 times better graphics and fighting engine, it also mini puzzles.

Think Tomb Raider with a smart ass guy as the lead. Knowing what you like then yes you would like the 2nd one. Third one comes out this year.

Not open world sandbox, but basically just like Tomb Raider.[/quote]

Uncharted 2 is one of the top 3 PS3 exclusives in my opinion. That game was awesome.

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Heh, to answer the original question, the answer is yes.

Not the occasional fun, but the “I’m an adolescent stuck in an adult’s body” with an addiction to brain candy can’t possibly fit inside any definition of manliness.

Take up archery. Or rugby. And learn how to field dress a deer or build a cabinet in your spare time.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Heh, to answer the original question, the answer is yes.

Not the occasional fun, but the “I’m an adolescent stuck in an adult’s body” with an addiction to brain candy can’t possibly fit inside any definition of manliness.

Take up archery. Or rugby. And learn how to field dress a deer or build a cabinet in your spare time.[/quote]
Careful bro! No real fun, capiche?

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Heh, to answer the original question, the answer is yes.

Not the occasional fun, but the “I’m an adolescent stuck in an adult’s body” with an addiction to brain candy can’t possibly fit inside any definition of manliness.

Take up archery. Or rugby. And learn how to field dress a deer or build a cabinet in your spare time.[/quote]

So a guy who plays rugby, can hunt deers, build cabinets and in his spare time, cheats on his wife, beats her up, totally ignores his children and is constantly dishonest with his peers is “manly”?

See how ridiculous this can be?

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Heh, to answer the original question, the answer is yes.

Not the occasional fun, but the “I’m an adolescent stuck in an adult’s body” with an addiction to brain candy can’t possibly fit inside any definition of manliness.

Take up archery. Or rugby. And learn how to field dress a deer or build a cabinet in your spare time.[/quote]

Define brain candy? If you love history is a history book brain candy? Why isn’t that just as much of a waste?

I said it early, not everyone wants to or has access to archery equipment, rugby, etc… Not everyone wants to gut a deer.

I don’t think a single action, like hunting, makes a person manly. I believe it is more about strength of character than anything else.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Heh, to answer the original question, the answer is yes.

Not the occasional fun, but the “I’m an adolescent stuck in an adult’s body” with an addiction to brain candy can’t possibly fit inside any definition of manliness.

Take up archery. Or rugby. And learn how to field dress a deer or build a cabinet in your spare time.[/quote]

So a guy who plays rugby, can hunt deers, build cabinets and in his spare time, cheats on his wife, beats her up, totally ignores his children and is constantly dishonest with his peers is “manly”?

See how ridiculous this can be?[/quote]

Edevus,

The book I’m thinking of is Teach Yourself to Dream: A Practical Guide by David Fontanta, PhD.

Main content, each with sub-categories include:

Approaching the Dream World

Contacting the Dream World

The Art of Dream Control

The Art of Interpretation

A Dreamers Guide to the Whole Self

Help From the Unconcious (The topic in question in this thread)

Fun read. Practical visualization and mental exercises to prepare the brain to dream more vividly and remember. (great for general creative thinking too) And then tools to interpret dreams, based on that sort of psychology.

I take that part of it with a grain of salt but it is interesting. As noted here people have solved game puzzles with dreams.

Beethoven said he wrote his best pieces in dreams or through “automatic writing”, also Jim Morrison, Led Zeppelin crew, Van Gough… lots of people.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Edevus,

The book I’m thinking of is Teach Yourself to Dream: A Practical Guide by David Fontanta, PhD.

Main content, each with sub-categories include:

Approaching the Dream World

Contacting the Dream World

The Art of Dream Control

The Art of Interpretation

A Dreamers Guide to the Whole Self

Help From the Unconcious (The topic in question in this thread)

Fun read. Practical visualization and mental exercises to prepare the brain to dream more vividly and remember. (great for general creative thinking too) And then tools to interpret dreams, based on that sort of psychology.

I take that part of it with a grain of salt but it is interesting. As noted here people have solved game puzzles with dreams.

Beethoven said he wrote his best pieces in dreams or through “automatic writing”, also Jim Morrison, Led Zeppelin crew, Van Gough… lots of people.

[/quote]

Thanks a lot!
I’ll check it out. As I said earlier, dreams are a very interesting topic and I’d like to know more about the entire thing. If I could stop mundane problems from popping in my dreams I’d be very happy.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Edevus,

The book I’m thinking of is Teach Yourself to Dream: A Practical Guide by David Fontanta, PhD.

Main content, each with sub-categories include:

Approaching the Dream World

Contacting the Dream World

The Art of Dream Control

The Art of Interpretation

A Dreamers Guide to the Whole Self

Help From the Unconcious (The topic in question in this thread)

Fun read. Practical visualization and mental exercises to prepare the brain to dream more vividly and remember. (great for general creative thinking too) And then tools to interpret dreams, based on that sort of psychology.

I take that part of it with a grain of salt but it is interesting. As noted here people have solved game puzzles with dreams.

Beethoven said he wrote his best pieces in dreams or through “automatic writing”, also Jim Morrison, Led Zeppelin crew, Van Gough… lots of people.

[/quote]

Thanks a lot!
I’ll check it out. As I said earlier, dreams are a very interesting topic and I’d like to know more about the entire thing. If I could stop mundane problems from popping in my dreams I’d be very happy.
[/quote]
You should totally read this book then. Very practical approach to discussing dream theories and such. Totally worth the $5 for paperback. Cool little cover too, if you showcase books hardback isn’t terrible either.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Heh, to answer the original question, the answer is yes.

Not the occasional fun, but the “I’m an adolescent stuck in an adult’s body” with an addiction to brain candy can’t possibly fit inside any definition of manliness.

Take up archery. Or rugby. And learn how to field dress a deer or build a cabinet in your spare time.[/quote]

Okay so Since I am a nurse practitioner, read books, play video games, married with 5 kids would not be manly cause I do not have time to hunt, shot a bow or play rugby.

However a guy who is lets say homosexual who happens to play rugby and bow hunts is manly?

Generalizations are a bitch.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Heh, to answer the original question, the answer is yes.

Not the occasional fun, but the “I’m an adolescent stuck in an adult’s body” with an addiction to brain candy can’t possibly fit inside any definition of manliness.

Take up archery. Or rugby. And learn how to field dress a deer or build a cabinet in your spare time.[/quote]

Okay so Since I am a nurse practitioner, read books, play video games, married with 5 kids would not be manly cause I do not have time to hunt, shot a bow or play rugby.

However a guy who is lets say homosexual who happens to play rugby and bow hunts is manly?

Generalizations are a bitch.[/quote]
Honey badger don’t give a shit.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Heh, to answer the original question, the answer is yes.

Not the occasional fun, but the “I’m an adolescent stuck in an adult’s body” with an addiction to brain candy can’t possibly fit inside any definition of manliness.

Take up archery. Or rugby. And learn how to field dress a deer or build a cabinet in your spare time.[/quote]

Okay so Since I am a nurse practitioner, read books, play video games, married with 5 kids would not be manly cause I do not have time to hunt, shot a bow or play rugby.

However a guy who is lets say homosexual who happens to play rugby and bow hunts is manly?

Generalizations are a bitch.[/quote]
Honey badger don’t give a shit.[/quote]

Sssshhhhh quite you.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Heh, to answer the original question, the answer is yes.

Not the occasional fun, but the “I’m an adolescent stuck in an adult’s body” with an addiction to brain candy can’t possibly fit inside any definition of manliness.

Take up archery. Or rugby. And learn how to field dress a deer or build a cabinet in your spare time.[/quote]

Okay so Since I am a nurse practitioner, read books, play video games, married with 5 kids would not be manly cause I do not have time to hunt, shot a bow or play rugby.

However a guy who is lets say homosexual who happens to play rugby and bow hunts is manly?

Generalizations are a bitch.[/quote]
Honey badger don’t give a shit.[/quote]

Sssshhhhh quite you. [/quote]
hahaha, did you get the sales bible yet? Can pm if you prefer… would hate to get you in trouble.