[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Seriously, what is this three pages of bullshit between you two?
Take it to a fuckin pm.[/quote]
Honestly, I’ve seen this in 4 different threads and the common denominator is texas/houstonGuy.
Threads are going from funny to WTF real quick.
I come online for the first time in a couple of days and I’m inundated with this BS within 5 minutes. And no I’m not talking about the topic matter…
I can’t believe SteelyD is feeding the dweeb known as HoustonGuy. On how the mighty have fallen.
Zac Brown Band is my favorite group ^^^
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
That’s true. I thought it was pretty funny how he threw all these numbers around about how women are catching up to men in education and in the workforce. I;m thinkin the whole time, “okay so we are actually reaching equality in the work place. That’s fine with me.”
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LOL. Well, that’s one way to look at it…the other is, it means tons of young men are no longer even trying to get a career meaning there will be a rather large social shift if men become the “Housemothers” while women earn more.
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I think the trend is more men opting for vocational training in high school and then heading to community colleges or technical schools, while women are opting for 4 year degrees at universities. I’m wondering how many of those women actually go into the work force? I know a lot of gals that spent 4-6 years at a university, and what they got out of it was a husband and $30k in student loans.
Those same studies tend to negate the 25+ year old men who after spending 6+ years in an industry then opt to pursue a 4-year degree.
I should really start checking the page count before replying.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I can’t believe SteelyD is feeding the dweeb known as HoustonGuy. On how the mighty have fallen. [/quote]
I can’t believe Gettnitdone totally missed SteelyD’s post “You two really know how to fuck up a thread”.
Oh, and Gettnitdone totally missed SteelyD putting the thread back on point from the what the fuckery.
Hey, but don’t mind me…
And, now bringing thread back on point AGAIN –
Programming, IMO, is as much a ‘trade’ as a profession- you don’t need a college degree. In fact, many of my colleagues don’t have ‘computer’ degrees or degrees at all. I caught the video game bug early. My dad had a ‘Pong’ console. Played Atari, Intellivision, C64, Colecovision, “Head-to-head sports” and other handheld games, etc ad infinitum.
That was a gateway into learning to code-- wanting to make my own games, even just stupid (BASIC) games. But as a 10 year old, that’s huge.
Today, it’s even easier to ‘script’ out your own levels in games. The games even provide the interface(s) to do so now. More hacks, etc. And more kids than ever are learning the skill-- much like kids who learned to be mechanics/mech.engineers by tinkering with lawn mower engines and cars in the back yard.
Point is, the video gaming skills (at least the ones beyond just turning the console on and running/gunning) translate into real, applicable life skills that allow people to provide for themselves and their families. Maybe a better way to word that is that video gaming can provide the gateway to acquiring ‘professional skills’.
Only, if they apply themselves of course. I know that’s not what many on the T-Nation think of as “manly” in the physical sense, but in a ‘responsibility sense’.
Now of course, for every “1” person that uses gaming as a gateway to a profession, there are probably 10,000 who are just lazy fat fucks
I have a friend who has spent the last 16-17 years of his life sitting in his room playing computer games. He’s in his 30s, still stays with his mum, smokes weed and boozes all day.
I reckon he’s still a virgin as well.
THIS THREAD
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I come online for the first time in a couple of days and I’m inundated with this BS within 5 minutes. And no I’m not talking about the topic matter…
I can’t believe SteelyD is feeding the dweeb known as HoustonGuy. On how the mighty have fallen. [/quote]
Haha fuck you! I made the best points on the topic and then it was done.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I come online for the first time in a couple of days and I’m inundated with this BS within 5 minutes. And no I’m not talking about the topic matter…
I can’t believe SteelyD is feeding the dweeb known as HoustonGuy. On how the mighty have fallen. [/quote]
Haha fuck you! I made the best points on the topic and then it was done.[/quote]
Naw dude…this thread is ten pages of “not worth reading” in large part because of you.
You are a “funneh-remover”.
It’s all your fault.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I come online for the first time in a couple of days and I’m inundated with this BS within 5 minutes. And no I’m not talking about the topic matter…
I can’t believe SteelyD is feeding the dweeb known as HoustonGuy. On how the mighty have fallen. [/quote]
Haha fuck you! I made the best points on the topic and then it was done.[/quote]
No, really - stop posting.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I come online for the first time in a couple of days and I’m inundated with this BS within 5 minutes. And no I’m not talking about the topic matter…
I can’t believe SteelyD is feeding the dweeb known as HoustonGuy. On how the mighty have fallen. [/quote]
Haha fuck you! I made the best points on the topic and then it was done.[/quote]
No, really - stop posting.[/quote]
No.
Did anyone actually read the CNN article?
The guy points to video games as the cause, at least in part, of:
I believe the first 2 points are a generational thing, this old fart doesn’t realize it’s not 1950, and people my age (late 20’s) are smart enough to plan to have children once they have a comfortable level of financial stabilty. And as far as marriage, he’s pushing his idea that marriage is the only way to raise a family, which again is his 1950’s mentality kicking in. I personally don’t believe in marriage and never plan on getting married, but that’s more of a middle finger to old people like the author, not the fault of video games.
His last 2 points are merely sexist in some fashion. It sounds like he wants to go back to inequality for men and women in the work place, since the last 30 years or so he cites as women making more progress than men was simply to get to a level playing field in the job and higher education fronts.
The author also once said something along the lines of, “if you were to abort all black babies, the crime rate would go down”, so the rantings of a crazy old sexist racist need to be put into context and have the source considered.
As far as video games in general, you will always have a group who takes any acitivity to an extreme, so while I understand where the stoner/fatty/living in mom’s basement sterotype comes from for gamers, it’s really not representive of the group as a whole.
On guitar hero - I think the game does a great job of introducing kids to classic rock music they wouldn’t otherwise get to hear, and I think that’s great. Also, if guitar hero inspires one kid to pick up a real guitar and learn to play I don’t see how that’s a bad thing. Who knows, maybe that kid inspired by guitar hero to learn to play is the next Clapton or Hendrix.
^I agree with that. Man and women get married later because society as a whole no longer brands you as over the hill at the age of 25. People take care of themselves better and live fuller lives longer. The average 30 year old in the 50’s had already lost most of their teeth and likely looked way older. The average 30 year old today is just finishing up grad school or reaching an age where they finally feel grown up.
Times have changed…and video games alone didn’t do that.
I also have self control.
I can play the hell out of Assassin’s Creed…and STILL go to work…and work out…and meet people.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I agree. They’re probably the worst thing that’s ever happened to us, because they let us lead lives without ever living them, and “experience” things that we never experience.
I came across this when I was watching some clip of one of the “Fight Night” games. It was supposed to be some sparring match between Floyd and Manny to “prove” that Manny would win… and it occurred to me - 99 percent of the kids who are obsessed with or love that game have no idea what a boxing gym even smells like.
What really struck me was the background of the game. It looked like Floyd’s Vegas gym - open overhead garage doors, black floors, white cinder block walls, nice ring, etc. It looked SO FUCKING REALISTIC that I couldn’t get over it… those kids that really like that game, 20 years ago they’d be in a REAL FUCKING BOXING GYM. Now, they’re sitting on their couch, playing the game.
It was the same kind of irony that struck me when “San Andreas” came out - you could WEIGHTLIFT! In the fucking game! I could not get over the irony of a bunch of fat kids weightlifting in a game to get their character “jacked.” Even though they themselves couldn’t do a fucking pushup.
It allows us to kind of “do” all these things without ever doing them…and sitting there like zombies in front of the TV as we “pretend” to kill arabs in Call of Duty… while real guys are doing real shit in the real desert and dodging real bullets.
It seems ridiculous to me.
/rant. [/quote]
Totally missed this earlier. My sentiments exactly. And they see boobs on duke nukem. Spend all afternoon unlocking pixels. Truth or dare took like ten minutes…
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
On guitar hero - I think the game does a great job of introducing kids to classic rock music they wouldn’t otherwise get to hear, and I think that’s great. [/quote]
That IS great. Wasn’t my point.
That would be awesome, but again, you’ve missed and misinterpreted my point completely. Guitar Hero guitar playing is not the same playing a real guitar. Just like ‘riding’ a video bike is not riding a Harley. “Punching” a video boxer is not boxing.
In my Delta Force / COD clan, I always played with a knife only (sniper hunter). That certainly doesn’t mean I have the ability or skills to be a real life special forces guy.
Incidentally, this whole ‘old dudes’ thing is a farce. I’m part of a clan that has been playing together for coming up on 11 years (although I haven’t honestly played the game in a few years our clan site and people are still active and I help maintain the site). We have an airline pilot in his 50’s. A sherriff (deputy) dude (50’s). A cop (40’s). A few programmers (30’s). A large construction business owner (50’s). Mechanic (40’s). And a couple “kids” in their late 20’s (playing since their teens). Pretty good cross section and a pretty high average age. This isn’t unique.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
^I agree with that. Man and women get married later because society as a whole no longer brands you as over the hill at the age of 25. People take care of themselves better and live fuller lives longer. The average 30 year old in the 50’s had already lost most of their teeth and likely looked way older. The average 30 year old today is just finishing up grad school or reaching an age where they finally feel grown up.
Times have changed…and video games alone didn’t do that.
I also have self control.
I can play the hell out of Assassin’s Creed…and STILL go to work…and work out…and meet people.[/quote]
First paragraph x2. Many of us don’t see the point in marriage any ways as the hippie generation broke down all the stigmas surrounding free love and live in SOs.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I can play the hell out of Assassin’s Creed…and STILL go to work…and work out…and meet people.[/quote]
You assassinate them on screen and save them in real life.
You have achieved barance, Glasshoppa.
How would you feel about a game called “Maxillofacial Surgery”? Would totally be like the real thing, amirite?
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I can play the hell out of Assassin’s Creed…and STILL go to work…and work out…and meet people.[/quote]
You assassinate them on screen and save them in real life.
You have achieved barance, Glasshoppa.
How would you feel about a game called “Maxillofacial Surgery”? Would totally be like the real thing, amirite?[/quote]
lol
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I come online for the first time in a couple of days and I’m inundated with this BS within 5 minutes. And no I’m not talking about the topic matter…
I can’t believe SteelyD is feeding the dweeb known as HoustonGuy. On how the mighty have fallen. [/quote]
Haha fuck you! I made the best points on the topic and then it was done.[/quote]
Naw dude…this thread is ten pages of “not worth reading” in large part because of you.
You are a “funneh-remover”.
It’s all your fault.[/quote]3 pages maybe. I meant everything on topic. Games are a problem when they replace real life experience, and they do for kids these days. Games, handled appropriately, are simply another form of entertainment. No funeh bidness.