The police are above the law. If they do anything illegal they’ll just get sent home on paid leave.
Both people were already on the ground when the cunt kicked them.Unnecessary and brutal,end of story.
At the end of the day you don’t resist you don’t get the treatment. What this is is five percent of what the whole situation was. If you don’t like it call someone else when someone puts a gun in your face!
[quote]bundy wrote:
At the end of the day you don’t resist you don’t get the treatment. What this is is five percent of what the whole situation was. If you don’t like it call someone else when someone puts a gun in your face![/quote]
And who will you call when it comes to police thinking it’s ok to put a gun in your face and kick you in the face when the situation doesn’t call for it???
[quote]bundy wrote:
At the end of the day you don’t resist you don’t get the treatment. What this is is five percent of what the whole situation was. If you don’t like it call someone else when someone puts a gun in your face![/quote]
I don’t think it is the idea of a police officer enforcing laws that we have a problem with. It’s the idea that an officer can circumvent the law to enact his/her own justice. I, personally, don’t want to exchange my rights for this kind of “protection.”
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin
Maybe some mandatory counseling might help? Since it does seem like one of the more stressful jobs. Not to mention high suicide and divorce rates.
[quote]glasses123 wrote:
It was clearly a matter of public safety to get the situation under control as quickly as possible, however that needed to be done. The guy resisted, so measures were taken. He also clearly disobeyed previous orders (Off cam).
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And they couldn’t do this without kicking a guy that was already down giving minimal if any resistance? (2nd guy) Or a guy that was not a threat? (1st guy)
A cop kicking a kid in the ribs while he’s down and under control IS a cowardly attack in my book. I can see that kind of force to break up a fight. But this kid voluntarily dropped to his knees. That cop should be fired and charged.
Don’t be so simple. I expect the cops to follow the law when going after ANYONE suspected in a crime. In your hypothetical example, they can be kicking the shit out of the wrong guy for all I know.
[quote]blake2616 wrote:
Maybe some mandatory counseling might help? Since it does seem like one of the more stressful jobs. Not to mention high suicide and divorce rates.[/quote]
If you can’t take the heat, stay the fuck out the kitchen. Transfer him to a desk job and get him off the street.
I don’t know about BC, but cops in most of New Jersey make 6 figures. Yeah it’s stressful but they are compensated very, very well.
[quote]glasses123 wrote:
It was clearly a matter of public safety to get the situation under control as quickly as possible, however that needed to be done. The guy resisted, so measures were taken. He also clearly disobeyed previous orders (Off cam).
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The fact that people miss the boiling frog concept that Push is talking about is sad. I know this is the internet but I had expected more awareness from the general populace. I guess they will only realize once it is too late.
Additionally, I seems clear to some that a man who complied with police orders to sit down was endangering the public when he was tackled and kicked. It is so obvious that I don’t know how I missed it the first time around.
That’s kind of tame considering the shit I see over here in Thailand…
In this situation, the officers, particularly the One in Yellow, over-reacted. Hard. As in, fired, fined, and taken to court over-reacted.
Good thing this is the first and only time an officer of the law has stepped over the line. And Thank God-uh the guy deserved it, thus sayeth the Offi-suh.
Go Team Gub-ment!
i understand using force if someone isn’t co-operating, but that guy seemed like he was co-operating.
although… and i know i’ll probably catch some serious crap for this, but police DO have to put up with a lot of ish from people. like… f*ck the police but they better help me when i need them.
but in this particular situation, it definitely looks like they were letting out steam when they should have been holding themselves together.
If that was my son laying there in the doorway unconscious because he was at the wrong place at the wrong time, swing for the fences officer.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]blake2616 wrote:
Maybe some mandatory counseling might help? Since it does seem like one of the more stressful jobs. Not to mention high suicide and divorce rates.[/quote]
If you can’t take the heat, stay the fuck out the kitchen. Transfer him to a desk job and get him off the street.
I don’t know about BC, but cops in most of New Jersey make 6 figures. Yeah it’s stressful but they are compensated very, very well.[/quote]
Hell yes they are! I almost became a cop in the town I live in. Made it to the interview but wasn’t placed high enough, plus I was only 19 at the time.
There are some douche bag cops out there, that’s for damn sure. You give an asshole a gun and a badge, he’s going to turn into an even bigger asshole. My cousin was a cop at the shore over the summers when he first got through the academy. The younger cops would go around looking for fights to get into. I constantly heard stories of them ganging up on drunk people coming out of bars, instigating them to start trouble just so they could jump on them.
I know plenty of good cops though. But some are just huge assholes that think having a gun and a badge make them high and mighty.
[quote]football061 wrote:
Hell yes they are! I almost became a cop in the town I live in. Made it to the interview but wasn’t placed high enough, plus I was only 19 at the time.
There are some douche bag cops out there, that’s for damn sure. You give an asshole a gun and a badge, he’s going to turn into an even bigger asshole. My cousin was a cop at the shore over the summers when he first got through the academy. The younger cops would go around looking for fights to get into. I constantly heard stories of them ganging up on drunk people coming out of bars, instigating them to start trouble just so they could jump on them.
I know plenty of good cops though. But some are just huge assholes that think having a gun and a badge make them high and mighty.[/quote]
I’ve witnessed my fair share of this shit in NJ. In Hoboken, I was put in the back seat of a patrol car and beaten. The driver and his partner picked up an off duty cop who I had an argument a few minutes before and they cruised around while he slapped me around in the back seat and threatened my life. When I went to report it the next day, it was pretty clear that it was going to be my word against there’s and I was drunk that night so I had no chance. BTW, the internal affairs officer in Hoboken works for Hoboken. How fucked up is that?
Haha, HOBOKEN, sorry, every time I think of Hoboken I just laugh, it’s a weird response.
Anyway, I never heard anything as bad as your predicament, but I most definitely wouldn’t put that past any of the cops I’ve heard these stories from. I think the younger cops are the worst. My dad has some good stories from when he was younger…just don’t ever single one cop out and tell him to take his badge off and fight like a man. I think that only works in movies
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
i understand using force if someone isn’t co-operating, but that guy seemed like he was co-operating.
although… and i know i’ll probably catch some serious crap for this, but police DO have to put up with a lot of ish from people. like… f*ck the police but they better help me when i need them.
but in this particular situation, it definitely looks like they were letting out steam when they should have been holding themselves together. [/quote]
I agree, I’m normally willing to give police officers a “pass” if they put a minor beating on someone who just killed another officer or risked people’s lives (the high speed chase video from a couple years back comes to mind), but this time it seemed unwarranted.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
i understand using force if someone isn’t co-operating, but that guy seemed like he was co-operating.
although… and i know i’ll probably catch some serious crap for this, but police DO have to put up with a lot of ish from people. like… f*ck the police but they better help me when i need them.
but in this particular situation, it definitely looks like they were letting out steam when they should have been holding themselves together. [/quote]
I agree, I’m normally willing to give police officers a “pass” if they put a minor beating on someone who just killed another officer or risked people’s lives (the high speed chase video from a couple years back comes to mind), but this time it seemed unwarranted. [/quote]
At least you’re giving the cops some benefit of the doubt… we as a whole don’t know the whole story or saw everything that happened. What if these guys ganged up and beat the shit out of people just like the cops did? Would you be for or against it?
[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
i understand using force if someone isn’t co-operating, but that guy seemed like he was co-operating.
although… and i know i’ll probably catch some serious crap for this, but police DO have to put up with a lot of ish from people. like… f*ck the police but they better help me when i need them.
but in this particular situation, it definitely looks like they were letting out steam when they should have been holding themselves together. [/quote]
I agree, I’m normally willing to give police officers a “pass” if they put a minor beating on someone who just killed another officer or risked people’s lives (the high speed chase video from a couple years back comes to mind), but this time it seemed unwarranted. [/quote]
At least you’re giving the cops some benefit of the doubt… we as a whole don’t know the whole story or saw everything that happened. What if these guys ganged up and beat the shit out of people just like the cops did? Would you be for or against it? [/quote]
What if the guys were wearing a chicken costume and Peter Griffin jumped out of nowhere to fight him? It’s irrelevant to the facts. In the given video the kids appeared to be subdued with maybe minor resistance and posed no threat to either officer nor the citizens on the street, i.e. the cops had control of the situation. Regardless of prior infractions the suspects were already subdued, at what point is it necessary to boot the guy in the back?
Hell, the guy could’ve punched a baby in the face for all we know, but the situation was already under control when the suspect ceases to be a threat (ie face down hands behind back). Any use of force aside from slapping the handcuffs or restraints on him is unnecessary and is a dishonorable. Cops aren’t meant to “dole out justice” and that kick is not justice anyways.
We live in a society of laws and when those who are sworn to protect those laws disresepect those laws how are citizens supposed to respect them?