I know there is no definitive way to know for sure, @zecarlo…but I would guess (just intuitively) that all of the “believers” outnumber the total rioters (that filled people like pat with the fear that they would literally take over the Country…look at his rants) by quite a bit, if not millions.
Out of 74-plus million people who voted for Trump…at the very least we can say that the number is quite large. (Thus my concern that the Nation is regrettably divided into two Parallel Universes…).
Two points: this does NOT mean all that voted for Trump…and I for one am NOT one who condoned the rioting, and was distressed by it.
Rioting and a significant number in this nation engulfed in conspiracies, mis-information and false-hoods is not “either/or” for me. Both are distressing.
The first goal of all this mayhem he’s causing is to milk his lemmings for every cent he can. Second, he’s going to scream and cry and control the narrative as much as possible. He knows he’s done.
Uh, compared to who he was running against? Absolutely. He wasn’t as conservative on some issues as I would have liked but his policies weren’t Obama’s, and there was absolutely no 3rd party on the radar then (there still isn’t, but they’ve at least got a little more visibility now).
I do agree with this. And while any amount of those crazies is too much for me, this goes somewhat into the dt79 “media being dishonest and scare mongering” bag.
I do think that the crazy Twitterverse is entirely too large when I see all these things from POTUS being re-tweeted and liked. And that is scary to me. But I don’t think it’s as many as the media put out.
At least not when I take my meds to stay calm lol
To me thats a legit question, but ultimately it doesn’t matter - if you’re self centered enough to say it publicly in order to get votes, that’s damaging in and of itself. And they can get bent. The more something is repeated the more people can have a chance to be swayed.
Let’s say the true believers are only say… 1 million strong. That’s still way more crazy than I want.
Without the same level of media coverage, will that even matter? Theoretically the “liberal” outlets, CNN-MSnbc-ABC could ignore the rants, squelching the noise. Fox will find their own anti-Biden angles to take, possibly independent of Trump’s attacks. He’ll no longer have presidential privileges on Twitter so his more dubious rantings will disappear. That leaves OANN and Newsmaxx as his major sounding boards…
Actually, we can follow @pat’s documented response to the election to get a snapshot of how a Trumper thinks. (Notes, these are in chronological order, and @pat blocked me so he won’t see this):
Immediately post election, when Trump called FRAUD:
Then, he falls for all the misinformation Trump retweets:
Now, he’s all-in on this. Trump and Guiliani are going to expose corruption:
A little cockiness comes through after Guiliani’s Four Season’s Landscaping press conference.
After hearing Powell and Guiliani spin tales, his mind churns with possibilities:
Maybe the evidence is a bit then. So…
Why isn’t everyone outraged as this debunked claim!: C’mon, we can still win this!
Next, anger and pouting at his favorite target, the MSM. It’s their fault.
Last minute hail Mary? Could small, expected variations in the GA recount mean we can say Trump won?
And finally, back to vague feelings to justify the defeat.
Perfect!! Pat needs to get over it, Trump is a loser!
He lost by a landslide.
But I’m sure he will keep living in his fairy tale orange world of trumpland though.
I consider opinion polls such as this pretty much worthless, actually. If we were to extrapolate from the data from the poll, over a million DEMS “were concerned the election was rigged”.
Ironically, that would have a better headline with just a little more spin added with the actual numbers being much higher than that but I’m too tired and lazy to do math and shit right now.