US Presidential Election Predictions

That’s not true but I know you’ve got a vendetta or something.

The people who won are referring to Dems I assume so I am trying to figure out what you meant? If I interpreted that wrong I’m sorry it was unclear to me who you were talking about. You always go right to personal attacks must have offended you somewhere and I apologize for that.

If he was going to do something like that it would make more sense just to step down and have Pence pardon. I don’t think either happens but that would make the most sense to me.

Best as I understand it a self-pardon isn’t constitutionally a thing so step down and have VP do it is how I would imagine that would play out for any President who wants pardoned.

Because the truth hurts. What hurts even more is that despite Trump being a seriously flawed person, he was a better alternative than the opposition.

Supposedly, but most of the rhetoric I hear is focused on liberals undermining law and order, not liberals’ excessive deficit spending and federal gov overreach.

Give it another 30 years. Then when you hear kids are listening to, you’ll let em what REAL music was back in the day…

In all seriousness I don’t listen to metal much anymore. Only once in a while, just to feel the rush again

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Yes, but people who voted for him won’t be. A significant chunk of the 70+ million people who voted for Trump believe that they - through Trump - are being robbed. And that breeds anger. You can’t placate this in four years time with Nikky Haley.

Or maybe it was a steady diet of only chicken and hard liquor.

Yes. You convince a large group of people (a subset of Trump voters) that they’re a persecuted minority basically at war with their fellow citizens of different political persuasion and that they’ve been victim of a masssive political fraud scheme and some kind of trouble is bound to happen.

Northern Caucasians (from actual Caucasus, not whites) and Uzbeks are probably the worst.

I’ve seen firsthand that for some reason Uzbeks work in all parking garages on Manhattan. They keep a low profile - I guess the 'Muricans think they’re Chinese although they have a distinct appearance.

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Don’t forget the speed and cigarettes.

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Guess you gotta look at their heights. From what I’ve read Hmongs are descendants of Miao people in Southern China and most refugees were from Laos so they’re mostly short little fellows, but of course if they have guns you don’t wanna fuck with them.

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Unless you’re an elderly Clint Eastwood, that is.

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It would be rather tin-earred for the GOP to complain about deficit spending after the Trump administration. I’m sure they’ll pivot to it with all the grace of a duck choking on a pebble.

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Short-term thinking is the bane of the current Republican party, more so than for the Democrats perhaps. All of the doors opened in the era of Trump will be hard, impossible even, to close.

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Marvelous image. Made me laugh

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I thank you, I do try.

I guess I join @H_factor in having trouble following. You have zero empathy for people who expect the President of America to display some self-control because…those people allowed his ascension? If you mean the MSM, I join you in finger-pointing. They fanned the flames with their constant broadcasting of his outrages, and I blame them for so relishing the Rubio-Trump show that the primary debates were rendered completely meaningless. (I blame them also for the horrific increase in shootings. The guns have been here all along; what’s changed is that with hundreds of news outlets needing to fill 24 hours of broadcast or podcast or blog space a day, they now give attention to people who should absolutely not have it. You want Glory Unending? My friend, all you have to do is shoot a bunch of kids. But I digress.)

How we got stuck choosing between two such appalling candidates in 2016 is a question that haunts me. But I never failed to take Trump’s flaws seriously, nor did anyone I know in the lead up to that election (as a very, very reluctant HRC voter).

Biden…seems like a nice enough man. I would liken him to a George W, but of course too old for the job.

Which is exactly my accusation against the Republican party. The hypocrisy is heartbreaking for anyone who has an interest in effective government. I guess I look to the Dems to bring compassion and for the Reps to bring the fiscal conservatism. But the right seems to have completely abdicated their ideological role in favor of supporting an overreaching, overspending president while continuing to decry the other side’s “socialism.”

Our government, as flawed as it is in my view, was built to provide balance between the two essential - but often mutually exclusive - goals of social responsibility and fiscal responsibility. This is why we historically flip back and forth between the two - it’s a pendulum that swings from right to left at predictable intervals.

We are accused of being a “flawed democracy” at the moment, and at the moment, I’d agree. Our checks and balances are not working. No one is FOR anything, the majority on each side is only AGAINST the other side. “My party, right or wrong.”

Whatever happens over the next month, things have been smashed that are going to be hard to glue back together.

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How do you feel about all the “pedo Biden” photos/videos that were going around (and seem to be getting deleted/harder to find now)? When I first saw this stuff years ago I thought for sure he would never be president with this conduct - Trump and right leaning media would constantly hound him for it. Looks like I was wrong.

Remember this Uzbek? What a prize -

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While I would have been uncomfortable as a kid to have someone’s hands on me, in the absence of formal accusation of more than “overly affectionate” I sort of shrug. He’s pretty old, so the hair sniffing (he clearly likes hair) seems…I guess of his time. Things were very different even 15-20 years ago. The Me Too movement shows that, and I can certainly confirm from personal experience that older men were less restrained years ago. So I take into account his age and the fact that he seems not to have crossed the line into rape-y behavior, even minimally. If he had, we’d know.

I also see him as very, very affectionate generally. I’ve seen video of him touching pretty much everyone. He just seems like a labrador retriever in that sense. Talking to boys about his stutter with hands on upper arms, then giving them his flag pin and a hug, his clear affection for Kamela AND her husband, his physical affection toward his wife, etc.

I think he’s just a super-affectionate guy who grew up when it was okay to lean in close and tell a woman she smells good.

But who knows? I would have voted for a piece of lint if that’s what was running against Trump. If the republicans had brought in a moderate opposing candidate for Trump I would very likely have voted for them against Biden. So while I’ve liked Biden’s cozy talk of unity, which I desperately want, I don’t feel invested in him.

I’m trying to think how many candidates I HAVE felt invested in. I don’t recall caring much when Bush and Gore had the election challenge in 2000. I voted for Bush, but wasn’t passionate. Gore, for me, was tainted by the Clinton scandal. (I voted for Clinton in his first term and was enthusiastic, then voted for Dole…I think…for Clinton’s second term. Maybe Perot, I can’t remember.) I liked Obama. The republicans need an Obama desperately, someone people can feel actually happy about. (Talking about voter enthusiasm here, not policy.)

Pardon for what crimes exactly?

That, and it only applies to the federal government if I recall correctly.

I believe this is accurate. Trump has no legal authority to reprieve state crimes. I wonder if the President could pardon himself? Surely not.

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