[quote]unbending wrote:
We’re commenting on the fact that you’re so naive. “I live in the United States of America the only real country in the world.”
That’s the tone you write with.
It doesn’t work that way. Get out of your little bubble.
And about the original discussion, look towards Japan. They always come with feats of engineering. Where do you think the hybrid car was started form?
Here’s a hint: Ford didn’t do it first (or better) even though they also produce one.[/quote]
If we take history as our guide, what will likely happen is that the U.S. will invent the new technology, then Japan will fine tune it.
Japan is very good at tweaking and improving pre-existing technology, but they really don’t invent all that much. America is very good at creating new technology from scratch.
If you go back and look at the technological advances that have truly changed the world in the last 100 years or so, you’ll see that the majority of them were invented in the U.S…
I know this drives lefties nuts, but most of the new technology in the world is created in environments heavy in capitalism, corporations, and huge military budgets.
[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
I know this drives lefties nuts, but most of the new technology in the world is created in environments heavy in capitalism, corporations, and huge military budgets.[/quote]
No, it doesn’t drive lefties nuts because it’s perfectly true. What drives lefties nuts is when people disregard human life and suffering to make a profit. It also drives us nuts when people make sweeping generalization that aren’t true.
I know this drives lefties nuts, but most of the new technology in the world is created in environments heavy in capitalism, corporations, and huge military budgets.[/quote]
Except that groundbreaking discoveries are rarely made by corporations but by some capitalist maverick and that even the cleverest military devices translate poorly into comsumer goods so what remains is pretty much capitalism and relatively low taxes.
There is no need to glorify corporate welfare via the civil or the military route.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
My take. The US will invent the most efficient and effective means to achieve the same goals. Then, we’ll sell it to nations who’ve over-burdened their economies with standards many could not achieve. [/quote]
I agree that it will be invented in the USA by a group of Americans that work fast to not be hindered or finished off by American politics.
So it will be invented by Americans in spite of the official US.
That this still is possible unlike in the EU is a good thing though.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
vroom wrote:
I’m thinking a refresher on who exactly is in the G8 is needed for some of you folks.
[i] Which countries make up the G8?
The G8 is made up of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States.[/i]
Any more brilliant questions?
Unfortunately, the Harper government has been trying to lip sync inself to the policies of the US. Canada doesn’t generally stray too far from the US, but it’s much more noticeable when we have our own conservatives in the house.
If you had a bigger, stronger, and smarter brother (and he’s benevolent as well) wouldn’t it be GOOD to pretty much follow his lead?
(Except when the bigger brother wants to liberate shitholes like Belgium.)
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
unbending wrote:
Sloth wrote:
I simply believe the US will pioneer methods (or perfect the application of) that will achieve similar standards without unduly bogging down our industry.
We’re commenting on the fact that you’re so naive. “I live in the United States of America the only real country in the world.”
That’s the tone you write with.
It doesn’t work that way. Get out of your little bubble.
The United States of America IS the best country in the world. Sorry if that bruises your pathetic little egos, with your penis envy to boot.
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Yes, look at them as a bigger, smarter brother. Also benevolent and not at all arrogant.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
My take. The US will invent the most efficient and effective means to achieve the same goals. Then, we’ll sell it to nations who’ve over-burdened their economies with standards many could not achieve. [/quote]
Translation: we will paint ourselves into a corner without an exit strategy, and then we’ll hope on a miracle.
But if you’re worried about any other products, why not stop buying them to?[/quote]
Who says I’m worried. I tell you what, you quit buying them and then I will.
If your speaking about my government, if they wanted to do that, they would have signed the damn treaty. We have our own EPA regulations in effect in this country already to the extent that they are crippling our industry.
That’s all I hear industry workers talking about “we can’t compete with the Chinese because we have EPA regulations and they do not.”
I asked if anyone agreed with this statement and no one responded.
When China agrees to the same EPA standards as we have, then we’ll have a level playing field.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
If you had a bigger, stronger, and smarter brother (and he’s benevolent as well) wouldn’t it be GOOD to pretty much follow his lead?
(Except when the bigger brother wants to liberate shitholes like Belgium.)
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Do you have to troll like this all the time? I can return the favor…
As Canada’s largest trading partner, we have to kiss ass or suffer financially due to ridiculous trade measures and other nonsense.
With Bush at the wheel the US is acting like a power hungry drunk. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
There’s a phrase out there somewhere… let’s see… pride before a fall?
One of these days you guys might want to look at your unfunded national financial responsibilities… which as just mentioned on CNN amounts to about half a million dollars per household.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
We have our own EPA regulations in effect in this country already to the extent that they are crippling our industry. [/quote]
Yes, huge regular record breaking profits attest to how much of an impact these regulations are having on the corporate world.
Until then, yes, you certainly should set your standards to the lowest held by anyone else on earth. We see that comparison with respect to how terrorists behave all the time. It’s certainly a good way to determine your own behavior.
Go ahead, pollute your land, poison your rivers, it is basically yours. That sounds like a wise choice… because we all know that the almighty dollar is the only reason to be alive.
Some of you folks need a little bit of deprogramming.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
This article might give you some insight that there’s a lot more to rain forest deforestation than the US buying lumber.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
My take. The US will invent the most efficient and effective means to achieve the same goals. Then, we’ll sell it to nations who’ve over-burdened their economies with standards many could not achieve. [/quote]
Yes, that and many other amazing things will happen as soon as Bush leaves.
[quote]100meters wrote:
Sloth wrote:
My take. The US will invent the most efficient and effective means to achieve the same goals. Then, we’ll sell it to nations who’ve over-burdened their economies with standards many could not achieve.
Yes, that and many other amazing things will happen as soon as Bush leaves.
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Oh, I agree. It’ll have to be a different republican. But, on a more serious note. I don’t think either party will have much to do with it. I believe it’ll basically come down to the ingenuity of the private sector.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
I know this drives lefties nuts, but most of the new technology in the world is created in environments heavy in capitalism, corporations, and huge military budgets.
No, it doesn’t drive lefties nuts because it’s perfectly true. What drives lefties nuts is when people disregard human life and suffering to make a profit. It also drives us nuts when people make sweeping generalization that aren’t true.[/quote]
Lefties created a mixed economy, which allows large corporations to buy and wield influence. This leads to the abuses you attribute to capitalism.
As to the last; do you mean things like 'Republicans are heartless!" or “Republicans want you old people to eat cat food!” ?
[quote]vroom wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
If you had a bigger, stronger, and smarter brother (and he’s benevolent as well) wouldn’t it be GOOD to pretty much follow his lead?
(Except when the bigger brother wants to liberate shitholes like Belgium.)
Do you have to troll like this all the time? I can return the favor…
As Canada’s largest trading partner, we have to kiss ass or suffer financially due to ridiculous trade measures and other nonsense.
With Bush at the wheel the US is acting like a power hungry drunk. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
There’s a phrase out there somewhere… let’s see… pride before a fall?
One of these days you guys might want to look at your unfunded national financial responsibilities… which as just mentioned on CNN amounts to about half a million dollars per household.
That’s pretty smart too![/quote]
We built up those huge debts policing the globe and trying to provide a safety net for needy people. Those were bad things, huh…
When we DO implode financially, you Canadians will (a) have to fend for yourselves defensively or (2) have a neighbor who has a Hitler at the helm, looking for lebensraum, who got elected by promising to restore order.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
I see. Who is the one throwing around the word “stupid” in this thread? I didn’t drag this down to personal insults, you did. Who is arrogant?[/quote]
Don’t worry about that.
That was directed towards lixy. I don’t ever want to have any type of discussion with him.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
We built up those huge debts policing the globe and trying to provide a safety net for needy people. Those were bad things, huh…
When we DO implode financially, you Canadians will (a) have to fend for yourselves defensively or (2) have a neighbor who has a Hitler at the helm, looking for lebensraum, who got elected by promising to restore order.
Good luck on both counts.
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Dude, are you masturbating while you dream up these wild fantasies? That’s quite the imagination you have, old troll.