And you have to consider the possibility of a master’s degree. Some schools will check to see if you completed hours at cc and it can be a problem.
[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
And you have to consider the possibility of a master’s degree. Some schools will check to see if you completed hours at cc and it can be a problem. [/quote]
It’s something that needs to be looked at, especially if he’s shooting for a particular school, but it’s not nearly as large of a problem as it was in the past. Generally, the worst case scenario is he may have to retake a class or two.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
And you have to consider the possibility of a master’s degree. Some schools will check to see if you completed hours at cc and it can be a problem.
It’s something that needs to be looked at, especially if he’s shooting for a particular school, but it’s not nearly as large of a problem as it was in the past. Generally, the worst case scenario is he may have to retake a class or two.[/quote]
Yes it is becoming less of an issue.
But he would probably have to retake more than one or two classes, which would nullify the advantage of savings at cc.
And he is missing out on the networking provided by uni, which is almost as important as the education with a career being the goal imo.
[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
I’m a recent grad myself and my job could not have been attained without a bachelor’s degree.
-paraphrase- [/quote]
I mentioned the degree not mattering a great deal more as a generalization. The hard science degrees from a university are a different animal in this respect. You are not going to find someone with a history degree applying for a petroleum engineering job.
Another aspect that has been touched on is the internship/coop programs. Coming in after doing 2 years of CC will put you at a HUGE disadvantage when applying for these types of programs. When I was going through the engineering program back in college, we generally had our first internship after our freshman year. If you really liked it you would follow up with the same company the summer after your sophomore year and then try to do a co-op semester your jr. and senior year.
It certainly is not impossible for someone that spent 2 years at CC to get a good internship or coop, but by the time they even enter the race, the best spots have been filled for a year or two.
Thanks for the thoughts, and yes if I stick with marketing I will most certainly want to obtain my masters degree, and if I have to retake the courses I took at my CC in order to get into grad school, then whats the point of CC anyway? And also on the networking / relationship building, that’s honestly my biggest reason on wanting to transfer atm…
I’m afraid if I transfer over when I’m like 20-21 I’ll have a hard time finding my place + I’d only be there for 2 years so it’s almost pointless… And state school as in a branch? Or do you mean like Penn State University or University of Pittsburgh? As those arn’t cheap
[quote]calibreeze wrote:
Thanks for the thoughts, and yes if I stick with marketing I will most certainly want to obtain my masters degree, and if I have to retake the courses I took at my CC in order to get into grad school, then whats the point of CC anyway? And also on the networking / relationship building, that’s honestly my biggest reason on wanting to transfer atm…
I’m afraid if I transfer over when I’m like 20-21 I’ll have a hard time finding my place + I’d only be there for 2 years so it’s almost pointless… And state school as in a branch? Or do you mean like Penn State University or University of Pittsburgh? As those arn’t cheap[/quote]
How much is PSU main campus for an in-stater? You can always get student loans. Though it may be more difficult in this economy than in years past.
[quote]calibreeze wrote:
I think that I’m more concerned about when I transfer, like I’ll be 20 and I’ll just be moving onto campus, will I still be able to be in a dorm? Would it also be with guys / girls around my age that just transferred? [/quote]
you’ll be treated like anyone else whos been there for two years.
PSU is like ~$25k a year?
I am doubtfully eligible for financial aid, as I have money in a CD, but I would prefer not to straight up basically pay cash for my education… Also I would not be able to get into Pitt or PSU as I had like a 3.1 in HS they require 3.5+ so I’d have to wait then transfer, so I think I am going to goto another Uni. Such as Cal-U then transfer over to one of them after…
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
chillain wrote:
If you’re planning on med/vet/dental/pharm/optometry school after undergrad, you’d have an easier time getting straight A’s in those basic lab sciences at a community college.
They also mean a lot less. I think that’s bad advice.[/quote]
Really - is that so? Well, I’m taking all my lab sciences and other pre-reqs for my nutrition degree at community college, and I’ll be transferring to university to get my B.Sc. The school I’m transferring to has a full list of all their courses and the equivalents at CC - they don’t “look down” on CC credits at all.
I’m working hard and getting good grades, and no one at my school is giving out As for not doing shit. It’s pretty insulting to be told that my courses “mean a lot less” - I sure as fuck don’t think my O-Chem prof or my A&P instructor are providing me with a shitty, sub-par education in those courses…
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
It’s pretty insulting to be told that my courses “mean a lot less” - I sure as fuck don’t think my O-Chem prof or my A&P instructor are providing me with a shitty, sub-par education in those courses… [/quote]
Easy there man, no one said any of that.
And later in the thread, jsbrook provided a window into the perspective of a top-10 medical school admissions committee. Which certainly makes sense, when you consider they’re strictly selecting the best of the best college grads for their incoming class.
Just keep in mind we’re only talking top-10/top-50 schools here; the schools that are essentially forced to discriminate in ways such as this.
This is the Uni. I wish to transfer too
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
chillain wrote:
If you’re planning on med/vet/dental/pharm/optometry school after undergrad, you’d have an easier time getting straight A’s in those basic lab sciences at a community college.
They also mean a lot less. I think that’s bad advice.
Really - is that so? Well, I’m taking all my lab sciences and other pre-reqs for my nutrition degree at community college, and I’ll be transferring to university to get my B.Sc. The school I’m transferring to has a full list of all their courses and the equivalents at CC - they don’t “look down” on CC credits at all.
I’m working hard and getting good grades, and no one at my school is giving out As for not doing shit. It’s pretty insulting to be told that my courses “mean a lot less” - I sure as fuck don’t think my O-Chem prof or my A&P instructor are providing me with a shitty, sub-par education in those courses… [/quote]
Chill. I’m sure you will do fine in life and be successful. I was just giving the facts of the matter. A lot of medical and (other graduate schools) give less credit or no credit at all for community college courses. I’m not gonna sugar coat it to spare the feelings of people on the internet I’ve never met. It doesn’t mean you won’t be succesful. But it’s something that people should be aware of when making plans and considering their options.
[quote]chillain wrote:
SkyNett wrote:
It’s pretty insulting to be told that my courses “mean a lot less” - I sure as fuck don’t think my O-Chem prof or my A&P instructor are providing me with a shitty, sub-par education in those courses…
Easy there man, no one said any of that.
And later in the thread, jsbrook provided a window into the perspective of a top-10 medical school admissions committee. Which certainly makes sense, when you consider they’re strictly selecting the best of the best college grads for their incoming class.
Just keep in mind we’re only talking top-10/top-50 schools here; the schools that are essentially forced to discriminate in ways such as this.
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I don’t know that it’s just top-10 or top-50. I got a law and not a medical degree. It’s something someone seriously considering a career in medicine would want to look into.
[quote]calibreeze wrote:
This is the Uni. I wish to transfer too
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I don’t really know anything about that particular school. But as a general matter, I’d say transfer to the best school you can get into that’s economically feasible. Whether it’s before or after your two years at community are up. I also wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss dipping into any savings to help pay. It will likely be worth it and make a difference in longterm earnings potential.
I did not read thru the entire thread but,
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It DOES matter where you take your science courses.
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If you need to go to comm col to be able to pass these courses pack it in now.
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In my area being a full time student at com col you can take up to 7 credits at the state uni for NO extra charge.
Check into it, it can be a way of taking the sciences at the state uni while paying peanuts.
Make sure you take ALL of the prereqs the professional schools ask for at the UNI not com col.
Nobody cares where you went for psych or phil.
jmo
bill
I went to Community College, and I met quite a few people there…but if you go to Commuter school its really the same thing.
You should just worry about making money and getting good grades, then in your spare time do activities that allow you to meet people.
Join a sports team, or mma club outside of school, you’ll meet lots of great people.
If you want to meet girls, just hang out at your local mall or bar.
It’s no big deal, you’re sweating the little shit too much.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
A lot of medical and (other graduate schools) give less credit or no credit at all for community college courses. I’m not gonna sugar coat it to spare the feelings of people on the internet I’ve never met. [/quote]
No, I don’t expect you to do that of course.
And yes, I would definitely say that depending on the university, it would behoove anyone to make sure they look into exactly what the criteria is for transfer students and make absolutely certain that they’re not wasting their time taking classes that won’t be accepted.
My point is that not all community colleges are cesspool, kindergartens handing out A’s for difficult lab sciences like M&M’s…
For instance, the school I go to is considered one of the best 2 year schools in the country, and most of my professors are PhD’s. Now, I’m not saying it’s the equivalent of the Ivy League, but I think it’s a disservice at least to dismiss it as something for idiots. Not to mention, why pay 2,000 for a course that you can pay 500 for and have it transfer and make no difference at all?
Now, if you plan on someday attending Harvard medical, then yes I fully agree with what you’re saying. I just wouldn’t dismiss the value of a good CC so flippantly…
I would like to add that the school I posted is the one I would like to attend instead of CC I plan on transferring to State College as soon as I could, but would goto the school in the mean time.
Also on a side note, is it a bad time to get a MBA / BA in marketing? You figure I’d graduate in 3-5 years with the degree… But I’m not sure I’d be able to find a job.
Also the internship opp. at Uni’s does every university offer this option?