I scrolled all the way up, and the only labs that I see are not TRT, they are on clomid or shortly thereafter if I understand. Thus the high LH to go with the middle of the road other numbers. The Calcium strikes me as oddly low, although “in range”, it is low honestly.
He wrote them out not a screen shot.
Second, with the comments on my testosterone, being too low for example, I feel like the statistical range is being entirely ignored. You know with every lab having different standards and techniques being in the middle of the range at 10 of some unit, doesn’t necessarily equate to ten of some unit of a particular test from another lab. My above free testosterone of 94 in a range of 34 to 155 is not low! There is no way, that someone needs to be at the top of the range or the best place in a Range on every test to feel good and perform good, people are different.
If we needed to be at the top of everything, then ranges become pointless even over a population. People are definitely different from each other in this. The numbers are a gauge to get you started, but then you have to play it by ear to get where YOU need to be, which is probably different than me or any other guy on here. Some guys feel like God when they go on a blast, some guys feel like dirt with elevated numbers, so it seem that everyone has their own peculiar niche and complications. That’s why I try to avoid absolutes, there’s always one guy that is the exception.
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True that. But what I meant is isn’t tha range super low if converted to NG.
I recall another post guys taking 100mg. Who would of ever thought 100mg would work for someone. Even with a super low shbg haha. Scot Howell was what you do. Nobody should ever talk in absolutes, because things change and we never know the full truth. There is always that outsider. We can however use words like majority and minority or mostly and etc
I tried a blast and felt horrible . Recently I decided to increase my dose just to see if I notice any benefits , and I am. I’m feeling much better. First so called blast was due to switching to cream and having cypionate in my system. Trt hasn’t even started to work for me and I felt worse before I felt better. Now that T Is working it seems a bigger dose doesn’t cause the same negative effects. I have more energy.
First week I switched to cream I felt worse, I’m assuming the leftover injected T plus the cream had me too high, not sure. But every time I’ve gone above 3 clicks per day I seem to feel worse. I’m not sure if it’s an adjustment period thing or just too much for me
Yup adjustment period. Too high is too high. Give it 6-12 months and you’ll continue to feel better on 3 and 3 or 2 and 2. Just make sure cream is quality from MedQuest or Empower. I really think the body has to adapt somehow. Maybe it’s receptors or whatever I don’t know for sure it just works.
Time is the currency of trt. It took me about 3-4 weeks until I started to feel good after switching and my levels were 50+ with cypionate still in my system while taking cream.
Yeah mine is from empower. I’m only on 3 clicks total per day and it has me 1500+ TT. FT was 40 I think? E2 was 73. Shbg 90. I’m sensitive to most drugs for whatever reason
I’ve been doing 2 in the morning and 1 before bed
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Oops forgot to mention. Do not change your trt dose.
I don’t recall your entire story, but if trt hasn’t worked it very well could be that you are experiencing what i did. Trt don’t work until I fixed my thyroid. I wasted 4 months. First pill removed my fstigue. Then within a couple weeks of starting thyroid my trt started to work and I could feel it. So yeah for whatever that’s worth. Thyroid first if fatigue and exhaustion are severe. Doesn’t mean don’t do trt, but you can’t have trt without thyroid. If you are similar to me.
I basically had a lot of improvement as far as fatigue, etc early on but those results faded. TSH also increased up to 3. It was 2 last year, 2.4 when I started TRT and 2.9 now.
I’m still having positive results sexual symptoms wise but I’m still exhausted in the morning no matter how much sleep I get
That’s peak. It probably hovers around 25-35 . Stick to it that’s been my dose for / long while. I tried 2 and 2 and felt fine, but feel better at 3. Zero symptoms and issues. BP is fine and libido is fine.
True. I tested about 4 hours after application so it should be peak. I may try 4 at some point but not right now. Going to try thyroid meds and see if it helps further.
Yup that’s because your dose isn’t high enough. I had the exact same issue. I felt better with thyroid but still got exhausted midday, and I’d wake up feeling like death. That’s if and when I woke up. Now I set my alarm and set a pill on my nightstand. I take it and snooze. By the time it’s kicked in I easily wake up and go about my day.
You are the first person that had the exact same symptoms as me. You are going to be fine just do as mentioned and in a short while you will feel fantastic friend.
Same cream dose and everything. I can actually work now. I laugh and am social again. I have my life back. I’m relieved bro. So many years of depression all due to hormones go figure. If only I had taken labs 3 years earlier haha.
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25-35 free t seems to work for most . The estrogen above 40. Guys with less than 40 have issues more often. Above 40 rarely. That’s if they gave it time.
Sorry old post but it’s a good question
I just wish I had lab results from before this all started. I went from sex 5x a weekend to barely being able to twice a week. I’m blaming it on finasteride. I’m back up to about once a day no problem now.
I’m going to add thyroid first and see how that goes. Then I can up my dose down the road if still needed
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Yah finistride will do that. Libido is a common issues with that shit. Sorry to hear it man , but you are recovering. Give it time you’ll be having sex more often.
Crazy part is my sex drive / sensitivity went insane the last year I was on it. It wasn’t until after I forgot to take it on and off for a month or so that all these issues started. It’s bad stuff. Shouldn’t be legal to take it for hair loss IMO
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Yah with so many problems the FDA haven’t banned it. What the fug.
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My brother takes it and literally regrew all of his hair plus some. He says he doesn’t have any of the side effects and he’s been on it for 5 years at least. As bad as the shit is I’m against banning anything. It’s our own bodies. We should be smart enough to do our own research and make a decision for ourselves what we put in our bodies and at what risk. If it’s known to be bad then put a warning label if need be.
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Yup that’s the problem most don’t research what they take. They don’t understand what it does to the body. Long term effects and etc
I was on it 4 years I think. No issues… until there were issues.
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