U.S. Hegemony on the Decline

Is the government going to come ruin you / jail you if you don’t save the kid?

We are talking about government being able to punish you with the monopoly on violence that they hold.

Not an ethical concern or an oath you voluntarily take as a physician.

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Yet, you believe you have the right to take that service or property by force in order to save your kid.

Rights are not monolithic. They are not set in stone. They are mutable and vary by time and place. If the Founders had added an 11th amendment to the Bill of Rights that stated doctors may not refuse service for financial, racial, ethnic, religious, etc. reasons, would that not make it a right?

Do rights exist to make society better or to make it worse?

You are against abortion. You therefore believe a fetus has the right to the service provided by the mother.

This is a lie. You care so much you want to protect unborn children who aren’t your own.

This is one of the problems with Americans today: they hate Americans.

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No, I don’t. That’s why I would deserve to be killed by my victim. I said as much in the section you quoted.

Make what a right? The right to refuse service? I believe that IS a right.

I believe rights exist by virtue of what we are prohibited by God from doing to one another.

I am.

I have posted, many times, that I agree with Evictionism when it comes to the legality of abortion. I do NOT believe a baby should have a legal right to the service of his mother.

Additionally, I believe there is quite a difference between requiring that a man in a boat at least attempt to help a drowning man in a body of water, and requiring that a doctor do something that requires such talent/labor that no one else for hundreds of miles has that ability.

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In the past few years I’ve spoken to leftists/progressives who, in conversation have said, “as things get more progressive…”.

Here I am thinking, “Uh, buddy. Progressivism is here! So things are gonna get even more progressive?!”

That’s a characteristic of the left. Somewhere, somehow we’re going to reach some amazing, benchmark, though they never state what this is, or it is a benchmark that cannot be reached no matter what we do! Never, never, never!

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Actually most progressives I know are not far left in the way they live and act (and if they are it must be in their heads).

They pretty much live lives that are similar to mine but favor policies that ruin the lives of others. Every once in awhile their attitudes and policies ruin or upset theirs, which admittedly I think is a tad satisfying (like a told-you-so moment). I admit that’s not a healthy outlook but it’s hard to empathize with people who have no compunctions about the ruin of others.

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Then why would you do it?

Because good parents would die for their children?

This question is just dumb when I know you know the answer.

Just because I would do something in a certain terrible situation due to my emotional attachment doesn’t mean it should be law or negate the rights of others.

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To feed my child.

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Maybe it should. Because clearly, your belief in the law and rights isn’t as strong as your belief in what is right.

Hunger is more important than rights?

This is what happens when reality meets man made ideology (i.e., my truth).

No. For the third time: I would deserve to be killed by my victim. My or my child’s starvation may drive me to do crazy things that I know I have no right to do. My or my child’s starvation would NOT be more important than rights.

Shareholder owned and worker owned are 2 different things.

No, because what we’ve currently got has worked out so well. Why change anything?

Fuck, what kinda planet do you live on?

If almost all politicians are progressives(a fucking joke) then why is almost everything done for the ultra-wealthy/corporations? Is this advancing the human condition through social reform.? Man, GTFOH you ignorant D-bag!

Money in the U.S. is something to be worshiped over just about anything. The environment, human suffering and even life itself. As long as more money can be made, who cares!

Now you know what kinda person you are talking to.

Like happens sometimes in the U.S. Health insurance companies make more money by denying service. Awesome system we have here. Surprised that aspiring politicians of other countries aren’t using this as a campaign mantra.

Yes! Because the “between times” are so terrible that the paradise has never been reached.

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