This reeks of so much idiocy. I don’t think anymore ever taught my great grandparents sex ed yet they managed to have families of nine children…
Seriously, if you need an instruction manual for masturbation you should probably just end your life now because your level of retardness might be contagious.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
lixy wrote:
I see this as the same battle of the camp that wanted to teach evolution in schools, get women to vote (ya know, they’re only good for incubating babies and cooking) and blacks from learning they’re of the same race as their paler overlords.
Try again.
So you would equate a parent not wanting a public school teacher to teach their 5 year old about masturbation to someone who is against women’s suffrage and for racial segregation???[/quote]
ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding! We have a winner!!!
Jesus Fucking Christ. What a surprise, some wackos on PWI look at a UNESCO report and start crying that they’re trying to teach “my” kids “how to masturbate.”
Start dealing with reality, you fucks. UNESCO deals with issues regarding the poorest of the poor. Do you? Are you going to teach HIV-infected orphans in Malawi?
I don’t mind honest debate about the positives or negatives regarding a proposed curriculum. But this thread and that Fox news report was not that. This is simply a hack political attack.
“Reducing HIV infection in young people and improving their sexual and reproductive health require effective education programmes. However, such programmes are still not available in many parts of the world. UNESCO and its partners have now developed new guidelines to address this problem”
http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=29008&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html
Grow up.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
lixy wrote:
I see this as the same battle of the camp that wanted to teach evolution in schools, get women to vote (ya know, they’re only good for incubating babies and cooking) and blacks from learning they’re of the same race as their paler overlords.
Try again.
So you would equate a parent not wanting a public school teacher to teach their 5 year old about masturbation to someone who is against women’s suffrage and for racial segregation???
He/she’s an idiot, don’t pay any mind . Seriously, teaching kids to masturbate. And people wonder why I thiok educators are often idiots.[/quote]
Blame John Dewey, the father of modern education:
"Thus, Dewey proposed that education be designed on the basis of a theory of experience. We must understand the nature of how humans have the experiences they do, in order to design effective education. In this respect, Dewey’s theory of experience rested on two central tenets – continuity and interaction.
Continuity refers to the notion that humans are sensitive to (or are affected by) experience. Humans survive more by learning from experience after they are born than do many other animals who rely primarily on pre-wired instinct. In humans, education is critical for providing people with the skills to live in society. Dewey argued that we learn something from every experience, whether positive or negative and ones accumulated learned experience influences the nature of one’s future experiences. Thus, every experience in some way influences all potential future experiences for an individual. Continuity refers to this idea that s each experience is stored and carried on into the future, whether one likes it or not.
Interaction builds upon the notion of continuity and explains how past experience interacts with the present situation, to create one’s present experience."
http://wilderdom.com/experiential/ExperientialDewey.html
Gotta give the kids some ‘experiences’ they’ll never forget.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Jesus Fucking Christ. What a surprise, some wackos on PWI look at a UNESCO report and start crying that they’re trying to teach “my” kids “how to masturbate.”
Start dealing with reality, you fucks. UNESCO deals with issues regarding the poorest of the poor. Do you? Are you going to teach HIV-infected orphans in Malawi?
I don’t mind honest debate about the positives or negatives regarding a proposed curriculum. But this thread and that Fox news report was not that. This is simply a hack political attack.
“Reducing HIV infection in young people and improving their sexual and reproductive health require effective education programmes. However, such programmes are still not available in many parts of the world. UNESCO and its partners have now developed new guidelines to address this problem”
http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=29008&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html
Grow up.
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You grow up, it’s a stupid idea. How will this stop the prevention of AIDS? that’s retarded. People will still have sex. And it’s not that hard to teach kids. Don’t do it, you can get a disease. You can get someone pregnant. Don’t screw a monkey, they might bite.
Sex education has been around for years and in that time we have increased numbers of VD, pregnancy outside of marriage, and now the big boy AIDS.
I’m 46, I had it and things still got worse. Without teaching the why you shouldn’t and drilling that in kids heads, you lose.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Jesus Fucking Christ. What a surprise, some wackos on PWI look at a UNESCO report and start crying that they’re trying to teach “my” kids “how to masturbate.”
Start dealing with reality, you fucks. UNESCO deals with issues regarding the poorest of the poor. Do you? Are you going to teach HIV-infected orphans in Malawi?
I don’t mind honest debate about the positives or negatives regarding a proposed curriculum. But this thread and that Fox news report was not that. This is simply a hack political attack.
“Reducing HIV infection in young people and improving their sexual and reproductive health require effective education programmes. However, such programmes are still not available in many parts of the world. UNESCO and its partners have now developed new guidelines to address this problem”
http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=29008&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html
Grow up.
[/quote]
After reading the report, I don’t feel any different.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Jesus Fucking Christ. What a surprise, some wackos on PWI look at a UNESCO report and start crying that they’re trying to teach “my” kids “how to masturbate.”
Start dealing with reality, you fucks. UNESCO deals with issues regarding the poorest of the poor. Do you? Are you going to teach HIV-infected orphans in Malawi?
[/quote]
This idea is not so new, and not unique to ‘orphans in Malawi’. It was proposed/supported by former US Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders a few years ago:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/18/cnn25.tan.elders/index.html
And it wasn’t the first or the last time. The point is that some (many) are hot to follow UN recommendations for anything, regardless of original intent.
It’s been thrown around locally here very recently as well. Last year, Portland, Maine made national headlines because the public school system decided it would make a policy of distributing birth control to 11 year olds without parental consent:
This is reality. LOL @ “you fucks”. Nice-- once again a PWI regular has to resort to ass-holery instead of an intelligent response.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Jesus Fucking Christ. What a surprise, some wackos on PWI look at a UNESCO report and start crying that they’re trying to teach “my” kids “how to masturbate.”
Start dealing with reality, you fucks. UNESCO deals with issues regarding the poorest of the poor. Do you? Are you going to teach HIV-infected orphans in Malawi?
This idea is not so new, and not unique to ‘orphans in Malawi’. It was proposed/supported by former US Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders a few years ago:
[/quote]
The Malawi bit was to make us think this was some plan for third world HIV colonies, apparently. That’s just not the case. The introduction starts out saying that ALL children are ENTITLED to such an education. “It is therefore essential to recognise the need and entitlement of all young people to sexuality education.” That’s an all encompassing statement. And the use of the word “entitlement” suggest a right to such an education. Not to mention that these are supposed to be international quidelines.
Dealing with the Global Aids epidemic is serious stuff that needs more than hack attacks by conservatives afraid of talking about sex. The issue is HIV/AIDS, not “masturbation.” Time to grow up boys.
According to the Joint United Nations Programme on
HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS, 2008), more than ten million young
people globally are living with HIV, two-thirds of whom
live in sub-Saharan Africa. New HIV infections are
concentrated among young people, with roughly 45 per
cent of all new infections occurring among those aged
15 to 24 years. Globally, women constitute 50 per cent
of the total number of people living with HIV, [u]but in sub-
Saharan Africa, this proportion rises to approximately
61 per cent5.[/u]
…
Young people living with HIV
have particular needs in relation to their sexual and
reproductive health, including: opportunities to discuss
living positively with HIV; sexuality and relationships; and
issues relating to disclosure, stigma and discrimination.
However, these needs are often unmet. For example,
experience in Uganda reveals that young people living
with HIV are often discriminated against by sexual
and reproductive health services and are actively
discouraged from becoming sexually active. Sixty per
cent of those living with HIV reported that they had not
disclosed their status to their sexual partners; 39 per
cent were in relationships with a sexual partner who did
not have HIV. Many did not know how to disclose their
status to their partners.
Knowledge about HIV transmission remains low in many
countries, with women generally less well informed than
men. According to UNAIDS (2006), many young people
still lack accurate, complete information on how to
avoid exposure to HIV. While UNAIDS reports that more
than 70 per cent of young men know that condoms can
protect against HIV, only 55 per cent of young women
cite condoms as an effective strategy for HIV prevention.
Survey data from sixty-four countries indicate that only
40 per cent of males and 38 per cent of females aged
15 to 24 had accurate and comprehensive knowledge
about HIV and its prevention7. UNAIDS (2007) reported
that at least half of students around the world did not
receive any school-based HIV education. Furthermore,
five of fifteen countries reporting to UNAIDS in 2006
indicated the coverage of HIV prevention in schools was
less that 15 per cent. This figure falls well short of the
global goal of â??ensuring comprehensive HIV knowledge
in 95 per cent of young people by 2010â?? (UN, 2001).
each year at least 111 million
new cases of curable STIs occur among young people
aged between 10 and 24, and up to 4.4 million girls
aged 15 to 19 years seek abortions, the majority of
which will be unsafe.
This idea has been awarded the:
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Teaching 5 year olds to masturbate will cure AIDS in Africa, you fucks!
[/quote]
Spankin’ it cures AIDS!? WOW!
You guys have convinced me. There’s little doubt that:
I’ve been playing “We Are the World” and masturbating all day.
If it saves just ONE person…
Another retarded bastard idea leftover from the 60s
I don’t see a need to push masturbation education in schools to anyone younger than 16, becuase if they haven’t figured it out by 16, they need the help.
there’s not many fundamentalist religious folk still teaching kids that masturbation will wind them up in hell. And the ones that do exist are probably out of the school systems reach. I’ve seen cases of school districts still teaching that masturbation can lead to pregnancy, blind, and other stupid ideas, but even those are by old administrators and teachers who are phasing out quickly.
Tell a class of 8 year olds about masturbation and youre going to spend a week trying to stop all of them from attempting to masturbate during class.
Bringing sexuality to children at young ages is not a good idea what so ever. You could even argue evolution should be pushing us to not desire sex until later in life.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I’ve been playing “We Are the World” and masturbating all day.
If it saves just ONE person…[/quote]
Oh my. All those voices…
[quote]tom63 wrote:
[…] You grow up, it’s a stupid idea. How will this stop the prevention of AIDS? that’s retarded. People will still have sex. And it’s not that hard to teach kids. Don’t do it, you can get a disease. You can get someone pregnant. Don’t screw a monkey, they might bite.
Sex education has been around for years and in that time we have increased numbers of VD, pregnancy outside of marriage, and now the big boy AIDS.
I’m 46, I had it and things still got worse. Without teaching the why you shouldn’t and drilling that in kids heads, you lose.[/quote]
Trends in HIV- and STD-Related Risk Behaviors Among High School Students — United States, 1991–2007
[…]This report summarizes the results of that analysis, which indicated that, during 1991–2007, the percentage of U.S. high school students who ever had sexual intercourse decreased 12%, the percentage who had sexual intercourse with four or more persons during their lifetime decreased 20%, and the percentage who were currently sexually active decreased 7%. Among students who were currently sexually active, the prevalence of condom use increased 33%. However, these changes in risk behaviors were not observed in some subgroups. In addition, no changes were detected in the prevalence of sexual risk behaviors from 2005 to 2007, and many students still engaged in behaviors that place them at risk for HIV infection and STDs.[…]
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5730a1.htm?s_cid=mm5730a1_e#tab
Makkun
“Don’t worry, I will be the one teaching the kids.”