So all those women getting arrested in Iran for removing the hijab don’t know what they’re doing?
In literally every Muslim country wearing a hijab is a political statement, and it’s often the defining position of progressive vs. traditionalist political parties.
In Lebanon, only around 17% of women cover their heads, for your information.
The Quran proscribes only covering of one’s breasts. Among desert Arabs in pre-Islamic times displaying nude breasts was very common, much as it was central Africa.
Are my options the above statement, or a litmus test of wear headscarf (anywhere) = can’t be liberal?
Cool. Does this somehow make wearing it as a litmus test for !=liberal (in America) a wise idea?
Can you back up this stat? I’d love to see it compared to other countries, or the Muslim population as a whole. Really doubting the overall numbers scratch the surface of backing you up here.
Awesome. From a 10 second google, as well as prior searching, I’m fully aware you’re touting the vast minority opinion.
Which is fine, btw. I keep trying to get my Grandpa to show me where the bible tells him not to let gay people enter a contract. I’m 100% down for logically interpreting other people’s holy books, as it’s a load of fun, but I definitely know my opinion doesn’t count for jack irt their actual religion.
Yes. I’m yet to see a Persian woman under 60 wearing any sort of head covering in California. Same goes for Muslim Shiite women from Lebanon. How come they don’t have a problem in the US? Nor with any other activities that are supposedly haram?
Also, Hirsi Ali is also Somali, like Ilhan Omar. She’s got a few choice words for the hijab:
Wikipedia and it corresponds with my personal experience.
Happy to agree to disagree. Seems patently silly to me.
(Is Persian meant to mean Muslim, or is that just another extreme outlier in the low scarf rate like Lebanon?)
Strange. I live in driving distance of a very large % (relatively) Muslim community in Michigan. You can’t do much of anything in the entire surrounding area without seeing a sub 60 woman with a headscarf.
Stranger still, the college I attended had dozens upon dozens of women wearing some form of a headscarf. Very popular college with the town I mentioned above.
Ah. I had seen this, but was hoping you had something that would show relative country stuff. Would be interesting to see.
So assuming my math isn’t spotty, we’re looking at 34% of Muslim women that wear headscarves? The very source you provide shows the MOST PROGRESSIVE Muslim society is at 34% headscarves? The extreme outlier that demonstrates what you’re saying is at 1/3rd?
Fwiw, I completely agree with you. I’ve read the passages in the Quran converted to English, as well as a number of other translations/interpretations converted. Makes absolute sense that a headscarf wouldn’t be mandated.
Persian as in Iranian. Shiite Muslim if you exclude the minority Zoroastrians and Bahai’i. Around half a million reside in LA and surroundings. As they’re visually quite distinctive, haven’t seen a single headscarf, when there’s no compulsion.
Yes, and this is one of those 1/3rd. Not much choice there.
Have you seen many in total? It seems strange to imply a 0% adoption rate of headscarves when there’s such an extremely low chance of that being the case.
I’m not commenting on whether or not it’s a choice. I was commenting on whether or not it was a teaching of Islam and/or prescribed in the Quran. It’s pretty clear the bulk of Islam teachings disagree with you.
I’ll weigh in on the hijab discussion. I’m from Minneapolis area, which I believe has the largest Somali population outside of Somalia.
They treat the hijab very seriously. I have only seen one Somalian woman without a hijab, but she was an atheist, and disowned by her parents.
I actually don’t think Omar would have been elected without the hijab. It would be seen as a large offense in her district which has a very dense Somalian population.
I know a dude from Iran, and one from Lebanon, and they both have said that dress for the Somalian women is much more strict. Their wife’s both wore hijabs, but also wore pants and normal tops. You won’t see that with Muslim Somalian women.
Also Omar had been vocal about legalizing marijuana, $15/hr minimum wage, and other liberal policies. Not sure were the not actually liberal idea came from. She is considered liberal in Minnesota, which is a pretty liberal state for the most part.
Nah. She still would have dominated. It’s a historically dominated Dem stronghold district that she won by even more than normal due to the blue wave + shitty opponent. It’s also one of the biggest reasons she became a headline (apart from the duh Muslim thing).
The GOP gave such few shits about trying to win that district they essentially put up a soccer mom that knew which Israel and tax cut platitudes to preach about.
But she can’t be a liberal. She wore a headscarf. Psh and your liberal policies.
Well we could go back in time if we want I guess. Maybe we are talking about someone else. Registered Republican David Duke? Is it the David Duke that while running for senate said the fact that Donald Trump is doing so well is proof that I’m winning. The guy who said they share the same message? The guy who said they are going to fulfill his promises? The same guy who said he should be Trump’s VP?
It would seem to me that it would make sense to talk about recent history with the man. Assuming we are talking about the same guy.
Honestly, I think the Yanks are a bit naive when it comes to the headscarf issue which is not surprising since it’s a fairly recent phenomenon in US politics.
Since around 90% of Somali women undergo FGM, I’m interested to know what’s Omar’s stance on the issue? I can only find foaming-at-the-mouth Bretibart articles…
