Trump: The Third Year

I haven’t abandoned anything - I want a fair and objective press, and we have anything but. Had you bothered to read what I wrote, you’d know I wasn’t reversing course on what I think the media should do - I was saying that the standards have to apply to everyone participating in public discourse, so what’s good for the media is also good for the President.

You, on the other hand, don’t care about consistency - the press won’t be objective, and it’s bad, but Trump isn’t objective, and you couldn’t care less.

That’s my point - pick one standard or the other, but pick it and apply it to everyone.

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I’ll say it again…

Barring something unforeseen…

  1. Trump will get reelected.

  2. He would chew Warren up like a piece of Peyote…

Not that he won’t eventually recognize she’s not the real opponent. But Trump tends to prefer picking on easy targets.

I daresay there isn’t an easier mainstream target than Warren right now.

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Im saying he is a proxy for middle america that is slowly being converted to a leftist society.
Always willing to fight back, does not follow the gentlemanly manner that leftists don’t adhere to (which Conservatives have to the country’s loss), is genuinely saying things that make sense if you are interested in self preservation - borders, fair trade, getting allies to be allies rather than supported children.

I hate this destruction of my country from within, by leftists and neo-cons, more than than I dislike Trumps obvious shortcomings.

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Then get on this thread and bitch about the press for one solitary reply as compared to 3 years of whining about Trump’s lack of “character”.

Duplicitous, much?

Patently false

You tell me - when was the last time you went on a rant about the daily fibs and falsehoods Trump spews out on Twitter and through his press secretary?

In any event, I haven’t been duplicitous. I think the media is terrible at providing objective news - and I don’t watch the MSM channels for that reason. But Trump is a pathological liar - and there’s no dispute on that fact - and lying is either bad or it isn’t.

So, I’ll ask you - is lying to the public ok? Or not?

This is always what perplexes me. I consume very little news these days, and the vast majority of the news comes from Reddit, PWI, and my Google feed (cuz poopin).

Why do so many people hate the MSM for a variety of reasons, then refuse to vote with their dollar.

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Of course, there is no executive authority to do so. There’s no federal authority to do so. Alas, the authority to do so has long been deemed to exist.

No, lying to the public is not acceptable.
But I have ragged Trump many times here, as coarse, loud mouth, foolish, and such.

Yet the MSM and the leftists leadership spew falsehoods all day, every day.
I and tens of millions do not find him more objectionable than they.

The thread is called “Trump: The Third Year”. Why would any of us come on here to bash the MSM? It looks like most of us don’t even give them the time of day and agree they’re pretty terrible.

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Completely agree, and I think the answer is people actually don’t hate the MSM for bias - they simply hate the ones that don’t have their bias.

If you truly think the MSM is biased, the answer should be “to Hell with all of them”, because a lack of objectivity is the problem, regardless of where the partisanship lies. That’s my position.

For the folks who bitch about MSM bias but watch Fox news - they don’t care about bias. As news consumers, they want bias and will gladly pay for it.

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Yet - you accept it. Why?

None of these complaints are taking him to task for lying to the American people.

I could ask why you don’t condemn the leftists, but you won’t answer.
If you prefer their vision, just own it.

I owned my position just above.

Absofuckinlutely.

And it’s all coupled with the Zeb like thought process that despite the GOP having a govt stronghold nearly everywhere, the liburul medias still reign supreme.

Because it’s only an issue when the OTHER guy does it.

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Because the way that their revenue streams are set up aren’t quite as simple as “I don’t like that pizza shop. I’m not buying it.”.

Unless you want to boycott General Mills, Johnson & Johnson, etc, which amounts to going off the grid and living off of the land, money you spend on basic life products is going to end up in MSM coffers.

Whenever I have diarrhea I don’t feel the need to point out just how awful it is. That’s what the progressive left is, political diarrhea.

I personally expect more from people claiming to lean right because I believe our ideas are better and when people that are or pretend to be conservative, for example, do not speak or act in accordance with that position it irks me more so than what some looney tune lefty does because they’re just that, looney tune lefty’s imo.

Don’t you expect more from the people you believe in or that represent you? I expect more from General Mattis than General McChrystal because I am a Marine. It’s part of who I am. My brand if you will. I expect more from a Republican POTUS because, whether I like it or not, I am branded as such because I lean right. Does that make sense? It’s why I didn’t go on and on about Hillary Clinton post after post during the election. She sucks. She has always been terrible. I expected more from the Republican nominee.

This in no way stops people from limiting the amount of money they dump into the machine.

What the media produces is a direct result of whether or not people tune in to view it. Fox news didn’t spend half a decade talking about Obama’s birth certificate because the viewers stopped watching when it came on.

If people don’t like media bias, they should do the bare minimum and at least not consume it.

You might want to think about that one for a minute. Check out the sheer mass of those corps. and their volume of products.

I guarantee that in the civilized world you live in you use multiple products of theirs daily.

I’m well aware of who owns who. That’s never been the point.

CNN doesnt say “well people are still buying our diapers, they must want more of our news segments.”

Sure I do. And in the free market system, with actual businesses, they don’t equate sales of some of their products with public reception to all of them.

News segments still have to operate (profitably) within the industry they’re in. Advertisers don’t say ‘well they sold a lot of hammers this year, might as well put our shit on Fox.’