Trump is a lot of things…but dumb isn’t one of them.
Doing absolutely nothing as China destroys full industrial bases through product dumping and closed markets, currency manipulates, is the largest polluter in the world, and has demanded technology transfer or outright stolen trillions of $ of research/development is better?
I won’t even bring up re education camps or creating islands.
Don’t talk in generalities about free trade @H_factor, give me a solution to these shake down gangsters.
Don’t buy their stuff and convince others not to? Really the only clever individuals can pull.
If you are one of the population that Walmarts or Amazons weekly, that boycott is obviously non existent.
Every person that ever achieved anything , realizes that it takes some sacrifice for some period of time to make it come to fruition. But @pfury was questioning Americans being able to see beyond the briefest of timeframes a week or so back. I agree, but it is to the destruction of the country.
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I do more than that. I also think they can’t see beyond the briefest of timeframes into the future either.
The GOP spent my entire childhood going HARD about how good it was for business to outsource to China. It’s what I was personally raised on in WV. And even among the Dems only the blue collar people really opposed outsourcing.
My issue is with people screaming about the runaway gremlin that is China, and I’m sitting over here having spent 20 years watching people get it wet and feed it at 1 am thinking “what the fuck did everyone expect to happen?”
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They must have read Ayn Rand.
What you call sacrifice, some call theft and tyranny (as well as socialism and communism).
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“It stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there’s someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master.”
From “The Soul of a Collectivist”
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I don’t believe I made judgments in my post or generalities?
I am not disagreeing with you at all, @treco; but there are a few problems:
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The latest “Trade War” revealed in stark terms that trade has a LOT of “give-and-take”. (i.e. “You buy this from me/We’ll buy this”). Changing that agreement can end up hurting whole sectors.
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We will never “win” a war with a totalitarian regime with virtually unlimited human resources; that does not care about it’s people (safety, freedoms, rights, etc.) the way we do. You will never have a Chinese citizen receive millions of dollars because their feelings are hurt; and if a factory blows up and kills a few hundred? Oh well.
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You are expecting a lot of Americans to pay twice as much for a bicycle or wheelbarrow because it was “Made in America”. (or at least assembled, because a lot of parts and/or raw materials often comes from China also).
It’s all very, VERY complex, and not nearly as simple as people try to make it. (Including Trump).
What is the “solution”? Come to agreements that cause the least harm to American workers accross the least number of sectors.
My question reads a bit more agressive than intent. Just asking your solution to our giving away both the milk and the cow, without using some sort of fence.
Ag example - was messing with cows yesterday. 
@Mufasa
I like your post.
America’s self serving leaders in politics and commerce have done all they can to kill the golden goose. With the rise of AI, automation, and other computerization - maybe it’s already too late.
But l am having a difficult time naming any nation that is straight Anti Merchantile, to the point of thinking we can import everything, while exporting nothing.These few industries doing our most of our exports - heavy equipment, lending money, aircraft are all reproducable eventually.
Sure soy bean farmers, maybe some cattle/ pork producers are hurting. For those several thousand in hard times, tens of millions have lost jobs in industries that may never return. They can’t all code or switch from health insurance to car insurance.
What a 50 year mess.
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It’s obvious she never had children…or a soul.
And her reasoning is, as usual, flawed.
Because they look at people as consumers and votes instead of fellow citizens.
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Hold on now. She watched the bolsheviks, whites and reds murder each other and take her family’s livelihood multiple times.
If you watched the USSR birthed from the pit of hell in real time you might’ve been the most virulent anti-communist ever.
NOT fake news:
“A judge ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million to a collection of nonprofit organizations as part of a settlement with the New York State Attorney general’s office to resolve a civil lawsuit that alleged “persistent” violations of charities law that included unlawful coordination with the 2016 Trump presidential campaign, according to a court filing Thursday”.
Filed in June 2018, the lawsuit alleged that the President and his three eldest children… Don Jr., Ivanka and Eric…violated federal and state campaign finance laws and abused the Donald J. Trump Foundation’s tax-exempt status.
"According to the lawsuit, the Trumps allowed the foundation to be used “as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump’s business and political interests.”
(Could you even begin to imagine if this was President Obama?).
New York and the Southern District are not playing games with Trump.
It will be interesting to see how people like Hannity spin this.
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Not sure. I’d have to do some reading to add much more than the people above have.
I think it’s ludicrous that this is something done by an individual and not Congress. Those powers need to come back to Congress.
I believe a great amount of Republicans were against this or at least the manner it was done. Harder when you need a veto proof majority and no one in your party actually had a spine.
Anticommunist is one thing, but when you allow that hate to govern your reason, you say things that are more feeling based than fact.
But, but, the Clinton foundation.
I’m surprised that it hadn’t been brought up yet, @zecarlo.