The world needs an Ottoman Empire.
You know what gets me, @Californiagrown, @loppar , @thunderbolt23 and others?
How Trump and his Minions brag about “getting rid of ISIS”…while it was the Kurds who ultimately formed the “head of the spear” in that fight.
It should be of no surprise to anyone. Trump has a history of using people then throwing them away.
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Always accuse the others of what you’re doing
Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, two Florida businessmen, have been under investigation by the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan, and are expected to appear in federal court in Virginia later on Thursday, the people said. Both men were born in former Soviet republics.
Mr. Giuliani, President Trump’s private lawyer, identified the two men in May as his clients. Both men have donated to Republican campaigns including Mr. Trump’s, and in May 2018 gave $325,000 to the primary pro-Trump super PAC, America First Action, through an LLC called Global Energy Producers, according to Federal Election Commission records.
The men were charged with four counts, including conspiracy, falsification of records and lying to the FEC about their political donations, according to the indictment that outlines a conspiracy to funnel a Russian donor’s money into U.S. elections.
Since late 2018, Mr. Fruman and Mr. Parnas have introduced Mr. Giuliani to several current and former senior Ukrainian prosecutors to discuss the Biden case.
Messrs. Parnas and Fruman also worked to oust the ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, whom Mr. Trump had removed from her post this spring.
he indictment references a congressman, identifiable as Mr. Sessions, whose assistance Mr. Parnas sought in “causing the U.S. government to remove or recall the then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine.” The indictment says those efforts were conducted “at least in part, at the request of one or more Ukrainian government officials.” Mr. Sessions didn’t respond to a request for comment.
Messrs. Parnas and Fruman told the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project in July that they told Mr. Sessions last year that Ms. Yovanovitch was “bad-mouthing” the president. They later donated to his campaign.
Mr. Trump moved to oust Ms. Yovanovitch this spring after Mr. Giuliani told him that she was undermining him abroad and hindering efforts to investigate Mr. Biden. House committees are seeking Ms. Yovanovitch’s testimony.
As Trump would say, look at this photograph. And no, these people do not look like Russian mobsters at all
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Barely related to thread.
Do you think Kurds to be descendants of the Medes, but somewhat living in Assyria?
OT - Even as a opponent of outright nation building, US not shoring up Kurds is unbelievable to me. But Trump walking away, is imo, his worst blunder since taking office. And incomprehensible from any angle l can conjure up (in my admitted lack of knowledge).
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Wow, @treco…!
I agree! (Should the two of us be worried?)
I’ll answer in the Syria thread, if you don’t mind.
I’m currently fascinated by these two Russian born mobsters (left and far left - I had to specify that). One of them owns a nightclub called…wait for it… “Mafia rave”
In trumps defense, he’s been avoiding wars since he was 18.
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Bone spurs kill millions of Americans each year. How dare you belittle the affliction!
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They can hurt like hell.
The Clinton’s had\ have way more ties to the Russians.
You could not be more of a cliche/stereotype/meme if you tried.
You literally just kneejerked “but-hillary” when your precious oompah loompa was rightfully crtiticized.
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They didn’t keep me from serving.
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I’m sorry that’s bullshit, based on testimonies of vory v zakone or Russian mobsters which provide sworn testimonies of one’s choosing.
What’s actually relevant is that I was right about the Firtash - Guiliani connection when I discussed this with @Basement_Gainz. That’s some serious Russian mob involvement with Trump and Guiliani as Firtash is the second-in-command of the Russian mob after Mogilevich.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-firtash-idUSKBN1WQ2H5
Lev Parnas, one of the two associates of Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, served as a translator for lawyers representing oligarch Dmytro Firtash. Parnas was arrested on Thursday along with the other Florida businessman, Igor Fruman, on unrelated charges that included illegally funneling $325,000 to a political action committee supporting pro-Trump candidates.
Both men had worked in an unspecified capacity for Firtash before Parnas joined the Ukrainian’s legal team, according to a person familiar with the Florida men’s business dealings with Firtash.
Firtash, one of Ukraine’s wealthiest businessmen, is battling extradition by U.S. authorities on bribery charges from Vienna, where he has lived for five years.
Federal prosecutors in Illinois said in court papers in 2017 that Firtash was an “upper-echelon” associate of Russian organized crime. He was indicted in 2013 and charged with bribing Indian officials for access to titanium mines. Firtash has denied any wrongdoing.
Firtash was “financing” the activities of Parnas and Fruman, the source familiar with their business dealings said. The source did not detail their specific work for the oligarch or how much money he had paid them and over what period.
U.S. lawmakers have sought to question the pair about their involvement in Giuliani’s investigation as part of the impeachment inquiry. Giuliani told Reuters in an interview that Parnas and Fruman - U.S. citizens who were born in Ukraine and Belarus, respectively - had helped “find people for me in Ukraine.”
In recent months, Parnas was working for Firtash’s legal team, Joe DiGenova and Victoria Toensing. The firm worked on Firtash’s criminal and extradition cases.
“Mr. Parnas was retained by DiGenova & Toensing, LLP as an interpreter in order to communicate with their client Mr. Firtash, who does not speak English,” the Washington-based firm said in a statement.
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I like my war heroes to have served in wars.
Oh come on. You didn’t have what he had. All the doctors said they were the most huge the biggliest most painful bone spurs that have ever existed. They had to talk Trump out of serving he wanted to join so bad.
Facts are facts. I didn’t make them up.
Lol. Our president, and his supporters would have to disagree with you there haha.
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This.
It’s been made clear that there are “alternative facts”.
If you are referring to the video detailing the alleged Hilary - Russia connections, they are made up.
In your average Moscow bookstore around a third of Russian authored books in the “politics” section are about how Hillary and sometimes the gays but usually the Jooz wants to destroy the world.
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Never let facts get in the way of your opinion.