That is what Trump had in mind. If there was voter fraud he was going to contest the count. Not freak out and protest a uncontested vote count. And it does look like there were a lot of illegal votes. But everyone assumes they were not for Trump. So they matter not
Senator Barbara Boxer to Introduce Bill to Eliminate Electoral College
Good luck Barbs, funny you do this as you’re being sent on your way out of politics.
They are just shy of being under 1/3rds of the State legislatures, they do not have the POTUS, the Senate, or the Congress and, despite all that, they’ll still table this? God loves a trier, I suppose.
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You have hit the nail on the head.
What a waste of time. But then again it is Barbara Boxer who was and is a total was of space.
A lawyer in Los Angeles filed a lawsuit against the Electoral College, suggesting it violates the 5th amendment, and the notion of “one person one vote.”
“Birke contends that unless the court issues injunctive relief, the members of the Electoral College on Dec. 19 “will effectively cause a single vote for Clinton to be valued less than a single vote for Trump,” thus violating the one person, one vote guarantee.”
You need to have the brain of a turnip to call something unconstitutional that is written into the Constitution
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Speaking of people with turnips for brains, Kanye West says he would have voted for Trump, if he voted.
How long before he is accused of being racist ?
While I don’t disagree that the USPS is badly run, it’s one of the few things the federal government does that is expressly mandated by the US Constitution. It is also critical in delivery mail/packages to locations that are unprofitable for UPS/FedEx, so a lot of rural/isolated areas would be screwed.
It runs at a loss largely because it fills those unprofitable routes.
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Interesting…
It’s particularly ironic that a Senator would make this motion. All states get two senators for the same reason the Electoral College exists – to balance power between the populous and less populous, the big and the little.
Why should New Hampshire get the same Senators as Texas? Unfair! Undemocratic!
If you get rid of the Electoral College, you should get rid of the Senate and just have the House of Representatives.
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She did this most likely as wanting her name in the press on her way out of office. Note that she (Senator Boxer) has done virtually nothing during her time in the Senate. She wanted one last hoorah.
All he does is win. We just have to accept it.
I believe the date was July 4, 1776.
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haha, that made me laugh way too hard.
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Would it be be conservatives who rioted to the point of declaring independence against the government of at least 150 years
or liberals?
You know what I have found interesting, treco?
Each “side” will claim to being the ones that represent the most admirable groups in history…and the other “side” represents the most horrendous.
The other thing that people will do is deny vehemently the more radical and oppressive elements of their “side”.
I will just leave it at that.
They would have been terms “classic liberals” at the time, which are, now, ironically “conservatives” (more or less).
The liberal/conservative dichotomy is really not accurate in describing the political spectrum.
We really have a 4 way graph with “statists” and “personal freedom” on one axis.
Given the modern “progressives” of today believe in:
- state planned healthcare,
- state planned economy,
- limited freedom of movement (Sen. Boxer proposed forbidding people from leaving CA and other high tax states without a penalty, if you recall),
- restrictions on religious freedom (if said religion was Christianity or Judaism and conflicted with their social agenda, Muslims, for reasons unknown get a pass)
- limits on wealth accumulation (estate tax, 90% income tax for the “rich”)
- limits on rights to defend yourself
- limits on how you educate and raise your children
- limits on free speech (banning “hate” sites like the Drudge Report)
- have primaries where select special party members (aka “superdelegates”) elect a person who was not representative of the popular vote (Clinton) when another would have probably won (Sanders)
etc.
It’s pretty clear the statist side (aka the King George side) are the Democrats, and the Republicans (although they have strong statist problems, too) are more like the Revolutionaries.
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I was merely speaking semantics, but you had to blow that way up 
Agreed that people go all in on ‘their’ side.
I probably lean to considering liberal / conservative in regards to morality, rather than other factors like economics.
Yes I agree with you.
Was just picking at the semantics, like I said to Mufasa.
I will say, and this touches Mufasa’s last post, my sister/bro in law and parents (particularly mother) are die hard Democrats that espouse much of what you wrote. While I am as far on the other side.
I simply can’t understand their thinking. They hold to your list, but not necessarily for themselves:
- Hate guns but own several and at least 3 carry in car
- Bitch about inequality of ‘Free Enterprise’ but live in new, large(ish) homes, go on multiple trips yearly, and get new cars every 2-3 years
- Cry over Fox and everything further right inciting crazies, yet TV 24/7 on MSNBC, MoveOn, okay
- Praise movement towards socialized medicine while raising holy hell over dealing with the VA
- 50 years of bitching about taxation, while claiming anyone not searching out every benefit ever conceived must be a damn idiot
We mostly just avoid politics at gatherings.
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