I stopped thinking you were worth engaging with a while back
Figured you might make that reply after proof I have never supported her. Good riddance. You must be talking about people elsewhere as Clinton had no fans on here
Grab em by the pussy isn’t buried somewhere in the New Testament? Damn.
Also why did you have to pick one or the other? People couldn’t stay home? Vote someone else? Trump carried a massive amount of the evangelical vote I think more than Romney and McCain if I remember right. It was full throated support for him by the religious right. Just going to be hard to take them seriously going forward.
We vote for family values and moral people is just something they can’t say anymore. Maybe they used to but they quit now
Just surprised (ok not) you can’t comprehend this in others. Off to poker and beer so have fun
Very jealous. I moved away from my poker buddies and haven’t had a game since. Need to find some new ones!
I wasn’t thrilled to pull the lever for HRC. That said, for me Trump’s values were (are) anathema to the point I felt I had to vote against him. (Although my state is so red, it didn’t really matter.)
Don’t be. They’re all assholes
Sure would be good to get @anon71262119 and sloths take on all this.
Sloth hasn’t posted in a while but it is very clear his take on Donald Trump. It wasn’t pretty
Same here but I think if Rand Paul made it Id go for him over hrc but not Bern…maybe
Will answer briefly as a 60 hr week has made me slow in getting finished with my lesson for tomorrow.
@Mufasa @H_factor
My answer was part sarcasm, part agitation at the notion that Religious Right is some monolithic bloc able to marshall the vote into Geo Washington filling every spot, and being discredited if unable to do so. It’s 20% of the vote.
Our main obligations are to worship God and treat our neighbor as ourselves. Voting for elected officials or inserting ourselves into the political process come somewhere after these two. Trump was winning 1/3 of the primary votes until the crowded field thinned.
Because it doesn’t suit your preference, you are making Christians your scapegoat. However when Christians rail against abortion or homosexuality, you (general) howl at Christians trying to run things, not sure Mufasa does that, as that seems contrary to his persona.
@EyeDentist Thank you for the effort at being congenial above.
I voted Cruz (with about 80% of Gohmert’s district) and wife voted Huckabee (also my first choice before his extremely poor showing) in primary. I likely feel the same as you do regarding voting for Trump vs HRC. Searching my conscience, l simply could not vote for her. But l was not willing to abstain or vote a 3rd party, even though l have 3 of 10 presidential elections.
You are certainly more liberal than l, but if you say you are a Christian, l take that at your word and believe you follow the same handful of directives as l.
l’m fine with that because Rom 12:4.
Trump is a detestable liar and egomaniac. If God places kings on their thrones (Bible says He does) Christians should be thankful we sweated a bullet of not getting something worse. And Non-Christians should give thought to the fact that his ascendency against ALL odds & good reasoning, might be at the will of this God they choose neither to believe in nor bow to.
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No one is making Christians the scapegoat. I’m not sure where you are going with that. My observations remain the same but I’m not blaming Christians for anything. They just voted in overwhelming numbers for a person who seems counter to all they stand for. In my opinion that diminishes their points as a political force moving forward
I don’t understand the “scapegoat” comment either.
It’s obviously time to move on from this. If one does not see the hypocrisy in all of this…what I (or H or anyone else says) will not convince them. It fact, they most likely will only become more angry and entrenched.
And if it is (or might be) the “Will of God” that Trump is where he is; that rises far above my understanding, and I am left with “His Will be Done…”
If l misconstrued and answered out of turn, then mea culpa.
Good Sunday to all.
Hi Mufasa. It’s a politics and religion discussion? Please give me an idea of what you’re wondering and I’ll try to answer as best I can. You may remember that I supported Kasich. I wrote him in during the primary, even though he had dropped out at that point. Remember, I told you that I would never wish Ted Cruz on you, if you would never wish Elizabeth Warren on me? smile. I used her as an example, rather than Bernie, because she’s out there alone on the far left in terms of her voting record, and Cruz is sharing space with maybe 4 senators on the far right. I’d like to see reasonable people not do that to their friends.
I voted Johnson in November.
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Thank you, @anon71262119.
The feeling was that “The Religious Right” (More specifically the “Evangelical Right”)…as a recognized Political Group and Force…we are not taking about individuals or small groups of individuals… had in many ways made a “Faustian Deal” by overwhelmingly voting for Trump…a historically a-religious person with a history that was the very antithesis of what 1) they have said they stood for and 2) what they have harshly judged others…AND other candidates for…publicly and right from the Pulpit. (Donald Trump…let me say this again…Donald J. “Grab Some Pussy/Thrice Divorced” Trump…as the commencement speaker…at LIBERTY UNIVERSITY?
(Let that sink in for a moment).
H_Factor summed it up this way:
“The religious right just doesn’t really exist as a force after this. It will ring a bit hollow next time when they say they support family values and moral candidates”.
This offended some…and in the end, I really don’t care who a person or group of people vote for.
But living in glass-houses is a dangerous place to be…and “casting stones” at others will often reveal your own hypocrisy.
So…that’s what we wanted your thoughts on, @Powerpuff…
Thoughts?
(You’ve always seemed to have a more “Level Head” about these things, @Powerpuff…)
And my understanding from friends is that the “Evangelical Right” doesn’t exactly consider Latter Day Saints as “part of the fold” either…(but they do TRUMP???)
Wow.
Paint me confused.
In fairness, he did manage to work a reference to “Two Corinthians” into his speech.
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And before anyone gets on a “What about…” rant…
There is PLENTY of hypocrisy to go around on the Left…