Trump Inauguration Thread

Enjoy the next 8 years!!

WTF??? That just ain’t right. And why does everything have to be influenced by Lovecraft now? It’s like with music and Lou Reed. No one fucking liked him.

Now I need to build a whole new plot around my imaginary graviton rifle. What else are you supposed to shoot with something like that?

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You’ve just described Dan Blitzerian and his Instagram followers. Not the POTUS.

I think this applies here as well…

“Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren’t. ” – Margaret Thatcher

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The Trump’s metrics for being a successful President (or as he calls it a “WIN”) are those of a media performer - a musician or a stand up comic.

Without the CIA tidbit this could easily have been Justin Bieber’s tweet. Or Kanye’s

Great gig - packed house, , long standing ovations, amazing people. WIN

Me, me and me.

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60M ppl voted for him and he’s been married to models. You are officially just seeing what you want.

Like Trump or hate him, he is the pilot on this plane.
So it behooves oneself to root for a successful flight and landing.

All should concern themselves with
1 Why are we allowing so much power in the hands of a single leader?
2 How can we prevent such lacking individuals to grab the presidency?
3 Why are grown men throwing around pubescent terms like alpha male?

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[quote=“treco, post:106, topic:225493”]
1 Why are we allowing so much power in the hands of a single leader?[/quote]
-to combat the racism and the slavery. It’s really the only way.

-by taking the right to vote from the white man. Women haven’t always been allowed to vote in America; African-Americans haven’t always been allowed to vote in America. It’s time to take the white man’s vote. If only homosexual, transgender, African-Mexican midgets were allowed to vote, all would be well.

-it’s hard to say.

Deep insecurity and daddy issues?

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The convo could certainly be bumped up a notch or two

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If Jeb were president would there be much enthusiasm behind him?

It’s a weird place. My BFF and at least twenty friends were participating in the women’s marches yesterday. I understand, although I have no interest in going. Seeing pictures of my son’s darling girl friend holding a “Fuck the Fascist” sign was kind of a low point in the day for me. I really love that kid. My little tween went to the mall with friends who marched with their moms earlier in the day. My daughter told me, “Mom, they had a paper mache Trump doll that they drug around and hung from a building.” Not her little friends, but other people there who were acting more like a mob. No, I don’t see anything productive in that. I can’t imagine doing that to an Obama effigy. I have always been in the never trump camp, but at this point, I can’t wish him ill.

All the recent talk from the left about white supremacy - I’m hearing that term all the time now, and it’s use is creepy. It becomes dangerously close to telling people who did vote for Trump that they are all bigots or racists. I think it’s very difficult for people to separate Trump from the people who voted for him, or to imagine the reasoning of people they do not know, have never met. I started thinking about what it must have felt like during the Vietnam era. Worse I’m sure. I was a child then, so I don’t remember. I know I’ve never seen this kind of divide.

Yes. Not to state the obvious, but he is the president. It’s early days, but as a country, we eventually have to turn our attention away from the election and back to policy issues. Jobs, healthcare, energy, trade, terrorism, foreign policy, tax reform, family leave and issues related to childcare, poverty, education, infrastructure … the issues that effect us all.

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That’s why I voted for him. I’m far more afraid of the hate and violence I’m seeing on the left then anyone on the right. 200 dumb ass white nationalists met in DC and the press threw a fit. Madonna talks about blowing up the White House and they ignore it or cheer. Neither is right but one is given a free pass. Free speech stopped on campuses during my time, and it’s only gotten worse. Yesterday, I got to watch a bunch of friends who all qualify as top 1% post their photos on FB and talk about the “resistance” and “hate.” They’re privileged and delusional.

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/21/politics/madonna-speech-march/

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You don’t see the free pass?

“Ever the provocateur . . .”?

“Muses about blowing up the White House”?

“Madonna always stands by the words of her classic hit “Express Yourself.””

Did you miss the cheers?

Not hate speech, violent speech or simply crazy?

Milo Y. refers to himself as an expletive and the protests turn violent.

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Because every political system evolves over time and initial checks and balances envisaged by the architects of every such a system are no longer applicable or woefully obsolete.

The US political system has undergone a veritable social, judicial and political revolution (and one civil war) through the two and half centuries and greatly differs from that envisioned by the Founding Fathers, no matter how many conservatives use the phrase “what would the Founding Fathers say”.

Take for example, United Kingdom - Queen Elizabeth II operates in the same constitutional framework as Queen Victoria or the mad King George III you guys rebelled against, yet their respective positions inside the actual political landscape cannot be compared, despite the fact that the diminutive grand grandma is still the Head of Church of England and Prime Ministers kneel before her asking for permission to form the government.

That’s why many historians are concerned because there are - very possibly unfounded - parallels with the collapse of the Roman Republic in the 1st century BC.

What confused and disoriented contemporaries in Ancient Rome was that, outwardly nothing has changed. The Roman Senate held regular sessions, elections for the highest offices were regularly held in which ambitious politicians tirelessly campaigned for votes and courted public opinion.

Yet all those trappings, traditions and rituals became pointless as several rich, powerful men cut deals among themselves bypassing not only the established elites but the entire political framework by establishing a direct connection with the people, who loved them, among other things, for their showmanship.

And all those Roman knights and scions of old families couldn’t, to use that cliched term, think outside of the box - they couldn’t understand that all those offices and functions they aspired to and fought for in the political arena their whole adult lives suddenly became pointless and obsolete. They were blindsided when these new demagogues openly flaunted centuries-old basic laws of the Roman Republic - not bringing the legions inside the administrative borders of Rome proper (what Sulla did) or disobey a direct order from the Senate (Julius Caesar).

In Cicero’s letters to his one time protege Julius Caesar one can clearly feel the palpable sense of increasing dread as he implores Caesar to stop with the demagoguery once he defeated his rival Pompey the Great and return to regular political discourse and respect for ancient institutions. In other words, he’s asking for a pivot to the middle, which never came as there was no turning back.

Or in Cicero’s own words: “Those that are destroying the Republic are claiming to do so in order to protect it and restore the ancient traditions of our forefathers”

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No, I don’t see the free pass. I see a spoiled, pampered, entitled celebrity shooting her mouth off in an irresponsible and inappropriate manner. I see the celebrity quickly disavow her own remark (“But I choose love.”) I see a crowd of people responding to what was obviously a hyperbolic and metaphoric comment. I see the same celebrity explicitly clarify/walk back the comment today.

In contrast, when 200 “dumb ass white nationalists” talk about “peaceful ethnic cleansing,” do you think they’re being hyperbolic and metaphoric? Have you heard them walk it back?

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Did you miss my “dumb ass” part of that? They’re lunatics, but only 200 of them showed up in D.C. Madonna is also a lunatic but when she threatens the President she is cheered by thousands. That was the comparison I made. Your own biases caused you to miss it. She can “walk back” threats against the President and you can justify them as a “hyperbolic and mataphorical comment[s]” all you want. This is exactly why I fear the left more.

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As I included it in what I typed, I clearly didn’t miss it.

Do you honestly think Madonna was leveling an active threat against the POTUS? (Hint: The Secret Service did not arrest her on the spot.) Do you honestly think those cheering her were endorsing assassinating the POTUS?

Or is it possible you’re doing the same thing she did–engaging in irresponsible hyperbole to make your point?

That is exactly how the current right-wing power brokers want you to feel. It has been their go-to strategy since 1972–to wit, ‘the problem is those guys over there.’ At one time or another, ‘those guys’ has included hippies, blacks, gays, Mexicans, Muslims, feminists, abortionists, welfare recipients, and union members. (That’s just off the top of my head; I’m sure I’m forgetting some.) That’s the narrative, and you seem to have accepted it.

Speaking of the narrative, let me guess: You also think the media is ‘at war’ with the POTUS?

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Keep justifying. I don’t justify and violence or calls for violence. You clearly can’t say the same.

As for the “them” thing, if you haven’t noticed the same thing with the working class and rural America by the left then you’re not paying attention. But keep trying to paint moderates like me with your extremist brush.

Nice conspiracy theory.

“War”? Hell no. Incredibly biased and attacking Trump’s legitamacy through dishonst means? Yes.

Winston Churchill purportedly also wore pink silk underwear. Regardless of how we like to define “manliness” leaders like F.D.R., Churchill and Thatcher were strong leaders. J.F.K.'s own weakness (as likely interpretted by Khrushchev) arguably led to the Cuban Missle Crisis, and yet J.F.K. was probably about as “alpha” as we have seen in terms of sleeping around with beauties. Of course, F.D.R. also ordered the internment of Japanese Americans, and Reagan signed the order that apologied for it and paid reparations.

As for lawyers, we don’t fight physical battles domestically anymore. We sue each other and argue the law. I dare say that’s an improvement.

I think we can drop the alpha male B.S.