Trump and Roe V. Wade

You obviously don’t see the incongruities in your post that render it nonsensical.

That doesn’t sound true but still none of that points against what I said. Lena Dunham saying something stupid is not women getting pregnant on purpose to have an abortion. Has a woman done that before! Fuck if I know everything has probably happened once. However the idea that pro choice women are purposefully getting pregnant so they can have abortions even somewhat regularly simply isn’t true.

I know there are some crazy people out there. Just think of all the pro life bombers and killers of people at clinics.

That’s not crazy, if you believe abortion is definitely murder.

You don’t think it’s crazy for someone to believe all life is sacred and then go around vigilante murdering people? What’s stopping you then? My guess would be the fact that either you think abortion is not murder…or you think it is but you’re not crazy. I’ve “known” you for a while. We may see the world different on many things but you’re not crazy.

It’s not like legally they aren’t facing punishment. Usually when people do something not crazy they don’t go to jail for life for it.

It’s not murder, in their minds, if they believe abortion is murder. They believe they are defending others.
EDIT: Would you think it was crazy if someone shot and killed a guy that was about to stab your child? Would you consider that going “around vigilante murdering”?

I’m not sure how to classify it. If I did, I still wouldn’t want to deal with the legal system. I don’t think it’s crazy to drive 90MPH on the interstate, but I don’t do it for the same reason.

I certainly agree it’s not “usual,” but look at the below.

https://www.sentencingproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Still-Life.pdf

Moral relativism?

All life is sacred has always come with an asterisk. People like their absolutes to have fine print.

Not to my understanding of moral relativism. No moral judgement was made.

I don’t know either, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened. As far as celebrating festively abortions being had, is heresay, but Jane Roe herself told me about it. I don’t see any reason for her to lie about it. I spent about an hour talking to her, she told me lots of pretty disturbing behavior she witnessed during her time working for an abortion clinics.
According to her, she ran across some really fucked up people and behavior and it was her catalyst for changing her mind.
Easily the most famous and most infamous and historical person I have ever talked to at length. She told me her whole life story including how she got into the case in the first place. Ironically, she never had an abortion and really never wanted one. She was just in the ‘right place at the right time’ and she was paid for the use of her identity.

And for the record, I never supported violence against abortion providers or any such thing. It’s like assassinating your own argument. It’s hypocritical.

Hence the word crazy. It’s not murder in the minds of suicide bombers. It’s carrying out God’s will.

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I wasn’t trying to say you did so my apologies if it came off that way. No one on this forum is that unhinged.

You don’t think those who would kill an abortion doctor believe they are acting morally? God isn’t on their side?

I would imagine they believe both. To my understanding of the term, that doesn’t have anything to do with moral relativism. They believe they’re defending innocent human life.

At least the god of the bible is for killing out of the womb children.

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
-Psalms 137:9

Murder and it’s morality are in the eyes of the beholder, right? Right.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gotquestions.org/amp/dashing-babies-against-rocks.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.crosswalk.com/faith/bible-study/5-things-you-never-knew-about-psalm-137-9.html%3Famp=1

So, we while we do diagree about the reality of moral obligations, evil, inherent rights, etc. I guess we all agree that there is no independent moral obligation to recognize some inherent right to abortion. In other words it isn’t objectively evil to strike down the legality of abortion.

So the first article states that it is justified because the “little ones” where children of Israel’s enemies, and Israel is god’s chosen country?

Isn’t that advocating for punishing a child for the parent’s actions? I don’t think this is moral either.

So he must be really appalled by the legal premeditated killing of 600k+ human lives a year for nothing more than being “unwanted.”

Are you an Israelite during that time?