Trump and Roe V. Wade

This stuff is also becoming a driving force behind why non religious is the 3rd biggest ‘denomination’ on the planet, and iirc still the fastest growing.

I’ll see if I can dig up the source, but non religious should outpace Islam (and hopefully Christianity) in our lifetimes.

Super interesting stuff

Edit: I stand corrected. It appears Islam is still outpacing non religious

Out of 327 million people we’re talking about 10 million. 8 million of who are white guys. Doesn’t remotely come close to representing the nation. Nobody is worried.

You are talking about an overrepresented racial socio-economic demographic that is at large (white educated) significantly not atheist.

A small portion of educated white guys embrace and then overrepresent in atheism. Ok.

Non religious would still include faith based believers.

Keep an eye out on those fertility rates.

Conversions are the main driving force behind non religious.

I sure was, as a young, uneducated, DIRT poor Lil pfury.

These projections, which take into account demographic factors such as fertility, age composition and life expectancy, forecast that people with no religion will make up about 13% of the world’s population in 2060, down from roughly 16% as of 2015.

This relative decline is largely attributable to the fact that religious “nones” are, on average, older and have fewer children than people who are affiliated with a religion…

Some social theorists have suggested that as countries develop economically, more of their residents will move away from religious affiliation, as has been seen in Europe. But there is little evidence of such a phenomenon in Muslim-majority countries. Moreover, in Hindu-majority India, religious affiliation is still nearly universal despite rapid economic and social change.

China, with its large population and lack of reliable data on religious switching, is a wild card in our analysis. This is especially true for the religiously unaffiliated population because more than 700 million people of the 1.17 billion who do not identify with any religion live in China.

Some experts believe the Christian population in China is rising while the religiously unaffiliated population is falling. If this is true – and the trend continues – religious “nones” could decline as a share of the world’s population even more than the Pew Research Center study projects.

The religious will inherent the earth.

I know we have both posted studies / polls that have issues, but trying to predict % of world population that participates in religion (or not) in 2060 seems like a pretty worthless thing to do.

As Pfury said, it isn’t birth rate of the nones that is causing growth, it is people leaving their previous religion. I would say the current spike in nones is largely attributed to the internet. People can go look up other ideas if they please.

How hard was it to find anti-mormon literature in the 70s, vs how hard it is to find now. Same with every religion.

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And even then non-religious doesn’t mean atheist. And atheist doesn’t mean living without faith (murder is evil, independent of personal views or the law).

Interestingly, aren’t they, Mormons, one of the fastest growing? I’ll double check. Break time. Take care.

You don’t have to have faith that murder is wrong. It is demonstrably wrong. I don’t need faith in something observable. We can show the social ills from high murder rates.

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If they are the fastest growing, with all of the available information that their leader was a conman (and incarcerated for it), and all the other issues with that particular religion, then all faith in humanity has been lost by me.

Hopefully you are incorrect.

You can’t show that it is wrong. You can show outcomes. You can’t say it is objectively wrong for me to weigh the risk and rewards differently. You have to jettison any presumptions for others values. If a communist regime wants to rule through brutality, they aren’t objectively wrong.

I attribute much of the growth to the digging in of the heels that religions seem to be employing these days.

Nah it’s a hacked metric (and thus, useless).

Eg, I started the religion of pfury this morning. I recruited 8 people. Therefore my growth rate in 1 day was 800%

It’s why most religion by the numbers stuff tends to look at absolute value, as opposed to relative change

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Meh, they have really good socio-economic outcomes!

Just want to point out they’re 2% of US population. A whopping 1% less than atheists.

Hey man I’m happy to see them growing. Mormon is my absolute favorite of all Christian sects. They’re actually my 2nd favorite sect overall after Jews

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No love for Scientology? They have Travolta and Tom Cruise.

I guess not a Christian sect.

I put Scientology in the cult section of my brain. They genuinely scare the shit out of me…

I guess I care to much about what I believe in being true.

The LDS church invests a bunch of money in the stock market. I have a feeling that is why Mormons can’t ingest caffeine, but are allowed to have Coca Cola brand soda.

You should read through some of the stuff on exmormon subreddit.

The more I understand the more I think of them as a cult. Maybe not as bad as Scientology, but reading is restricted to approved literature, and if you leave most will no longer associate with you.

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