I have spent 7ish years in Uni. and I can confirm that there are some pure assholes and idiots there too. Having a degree is not a bulletproof evidence of someone’s intelligence and vice versa.
This reinforces the notion that my “European” view about free speech is not so different from yours.
It’s okay to criticize immigration, Islam or Israel. Being anti-semitic or anti-islam or whatever is different story if you attack the group as a whole with ill intentions.
Yeah, that was a little tongue in cheek, being that I’m easily as intelligent and in many cases much more so than a lot of snobby so-called academics, but was denied a grant to go to a community college because of my history.
Now ties to terrorist groups, organizing new ones here, all of that nonsense- well, thats academic freedom or some bullshit.
I’m sure quite a lot of them are essentially the same or similar, and probably derived from the same documents and authors.
Even as a private citizen or organization, one can be opposed to and speak out in many ways against who ever or what ever they want.
Even Ku Klux Klan or many other notoriously racist hate group members have the right to freely associate with whomever they choose.
They arent qualified to recieve any government grants or contracts though.
Pretty much. The ideological background is rooted to same sources, so similar constitutional base is no surprise.
Thats why its pretty upsetting to a lot of people to see, on one hand, institutions providing protection to members of organizations that are holding rallys and recruiting people that promote violence, but on the other side of the ocean people are getting arrested and prosecuted for farting into a phone, saying simply distasteful or mean things to or about people and other silliness.
Luckily this is not the case in most parts of Europe either.
Limits of the free speech is of course hot topic here too. It has been and it will be. Debating about free speech is part of the free speech after all.
Post Oct.7 when was there any call for violence on campuses? I did not really follow them but, I have not read anything suggesting there was.
A lot of criticism of Zionism, Israel’s policies, and military actions. Calling it a genocide.
“From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” chants.
If the argument is that a private university shouldn’t get any government funds period, that’s one thing. But to say you can get funding provided you are willing to out students for anti American speech is something different.
With that said, schools do have speech codes and they should be enforced uniformly. If not, then it should be a matter for the courts, not the White House.
The vast majority of university rejects would be tossed off of rooftops in Palestine. These people are of no use
If they have government contracts, and they are not compliant or in defiance of the requirements for them, that its a matter for the White House.
What would happen to the GI bill of somebody who decided to go on a campaign of hate against his fellows, and they decided to go through official channels to get rid of him?
Why would it go poof? Because when you sign up for it, there are qualifying criteria?
Trump wants to change the requirements to something that should turn off most Americans. Gathering data on students the government judge to be anti American and demanding universities out them is exactly what Hitler did. Since we aren’t dummies who don’t understand that history teaches us things, in a very repetitive way, we know that anti American will really mean antigovernment. We could have asked Sophie Scholl what being a dissident means but we know what happened to her, her brother and her friends.
Probably nothing. As far as I know, you can break the law and still receive the benefits. That is, if you are a vet. If you receive anything other than an honorable discharge, you might lose the GI Bill.
So whether or not they actually are anti american is of no matter?
Here’s a history lesson for you:
These pieces of shit have been doing the same fucking thing all over the middle east for the last century. They bring their bullshit where ever they go, then radicalize the population of the the nation that hosts them, creating war and death.
Here’s them flying a palestinian flag over ours.
I don’t know what that means to you, but to me that is a sign of conquest.
I’m not going to let “being like hitler” stop me if the alternative is being treated like the millions of jews that got murdered.
Their (palestinian) shit needs stomped.
Thats the first thing on the table. They pull that right out from under, first order of business.
It’s not illegal but besides that, is antigovernment the same as anti American? What is anti American? Americans cannot be critical of their nation? Do we want to open this Pandora’s Box?
Is that illegal? Americans have burned American flags and the SCOTUS has defined that as free speech.
Here’s a history lesson:
MLK was surveilled by the FBI for being a subversive and now he has a national holiday.
I have no problem with non citizens who spout anti American rhetoric being kicked out. American citizens however, have the right to believe and say stupid things. If the government truly has a problem with that, it should shut down all of the online media platforms where these ideas fester and spread. Should we pull a China with regard to the internet? Kent State was our Tiananmen Square. Those kids were considered anti American by Nixon.
This is sophistry and bullshit. Thats like saying “Palestinians are anti-zionist, not anti jewish.” Neglecting the fact that when they slaughtered and kidnapped a bunch of people- They weren’t asking if the people they murdered were zionists or religious jews.
Anti American is like pornography. You know it when you see it.
Who said that? You are jumping from point A to purple. Criticism is fine. Constructive criticism is even better. What we’re seeing is not constructive criticism, or criticism at all. Its tearing down traditional ideals and replacing them with a toxic ideology that has thus far resulted in death.
It doesn’t have to be. Ignore it if you like.
But let me ask you this: Were you surprised by the 9/11 attacks?
If your answer is yes, I don’t need your opinion on what this shit means.
Lol…imagine being so daft you support this decades long charlatan… Libs are soooooo fucking dumb