Don’t ever change.
I know what side I belong on, and have for a long time.
Well, if you have that need to feel part of a side, cheers!
So, sides are antithetical to unity.
Not during an ideological struggle for the future of society, which might have just been won by the good guys with the USA leading the way on another century of prosperity for the developed world. I cannot see how woke shall ever become more popular in the future. I am ready to call it a slain dragon at this point, especially as voter ID moves into place in more places like Maine.
There’s just no unity with falsehoods. They must be purged from government. We shall see which states drag their feet on this one.
Unity is always fleeting, but I think we might be moving into something resembling it. People have just had enough with all of the stupid crap lately.
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If thats a societal nucleation point, I’ll take it.
At least its not “Bomb those brown people!” Like we’ve been doing for so long.
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There have always been societal margins, and the weirdos are back in marginal territory where they belong.
When they became the tail wagging the dog and literally tried to upend “marginalization” they upset natural order, which usually does lead to polarization.
We were headed for a split of some kind, there’s not doubt we experienced a legitimate culture war.
But, more so than the election itself, it has been coming to an end at the institutional level and is all but over. There may never be any official “deprogramming”, but there will be and already is deemphasis, and no new indoctrination, at least not institutionally.
So unity will come by way of defeat.
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Eh, that’s not what I remember, but my point was not to belabor what a tiresome asshole you were, but rather to say that I better enjoy your inputs lately.
Again, not that it matters or that you should care what I think. Just part of my weird little personal code.
So your governor seems to have noticed a sea change in the wants of her constituents. I think the people spoke loudly enough two weeks ago that even the most obdurate had to hear it. Wouldn’t this be cause for celebration rather than derision?
Because I can tell you, after attending a social work conference (where I have never really fit, and I am not a member of the NASW) not everyone has updated the files to reflect this new information about the American people. I’ve never seen such gnashing of teeth as I did last week. Essentially: “You’ll pry our identity politics out of our cold, dead hands.” Not from everyone, luckily, and not from my coworkers, thankfully, but had the food not been as good as it was I’d have had a hard time remaining there, listening to it.
The NASW looks down on clinicians like me, who enjoy the systems approach we take in therapy (as opposed to the person-centered approach psychology takes), but eschew the radical discontent found in its “advocacy” arm. If I’m being completely honest, I chose social work because it’s a requirement for a lot of positions, including mine (hospital outpatient clinic) and allows me to practice independently in all states, which psychologists with masters degrees cannot necessarily, depending. The military prefers us, medical prefers us, and schools prefer us (unless you’re just doing testing). Anyway. Be gracious in victory!
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In some ways, yes, and I’ve been celebrating it here. Woke just died as a dominant political force in the USA, and it will evaporate as a social force sooner rather than later. Its time as a cultural force has already happened and it is now part of our culture permanently to some degree, as some people will always believe in it.
The most rotten pack of lies ever to infect our government, worse than ANYTHING ELSE we’ve faced on a long term-scale, has just been beaten. It will be along time before people understand just how threatening it was to EVERYONE. We were quite close to being a de facto one party state.
Given that my governor is likely complicit in what is likely election-rigging in service of this ideology happening at this very moment, she’s still a cockroach, and perhaps the most unattractive woman in Maine. She’s term limiting out at the end of this term, so it is no surprise she’s “leading” in this regard. I’m guessing most of her activist base is not ready to follow, even if Dems my age and older have had enough of that crap.
Maine is still full of self-righteous true believers in the process of being egged on into believing that their neighbors in Maine are white supremacist sociopaths who want marginalized people and drug addicts to die.
One of them is a deli clerk at my supermarket and he felt totally justified in telling me he wants to kick my teeth in yesterday. He did this on a very small local discussion group where we all live in town. That’s a bit different than a 60 year-old grand master of every martial art with college linebacker strength from parts unknown wishes to teach me a lesson on here.
I am a bit giddy that I finally got to use the line I’ve been saving. “I’m easy to find.”
They will not go gently into that good night. They need to be chased out of town like other snake oil salesmen were throughout history, and it will be glorious to watch as it happens and satisfying to participate in. I will be curious what set of ideas will guide the new opposition party as it reshapes itself.
Probably some really bad ones and I’m guessing more lies. They won’t be able to help it. They created this monster, and now it is their problem more than ours.
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I would argue in this case, sides are more than that, they exist to prevent unity.
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I do care what people think. We all should. Unfortunately, too many people don’t realize that people with opposing views also think. If they took the time to understand how someone arrived at holding a certain belief or conclusion, they wouldn’t be so quick to judge.
This is true. Antiracism is not going anywhere for example. People don’t really know what woke and things like CRT really are; they just see the superficial signs like DEI or drag queen story hour. This stuff has become baked into the system on a much more profound scale than people know.
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Some of us have known for decades what they really are, even as one person after another has lined up to call us gullible and malicious morons who don’t understand what they are even talking about. We understood it well enough to know it was bad.
The ideology makes itself known by its hostility to the truth, which can be apparent to a plumber in ways that it is not to an educator, doctor or anyone else who doesn’t need to be particularly concerned with how the world around them actually operates. It irritates these types when they are proven wrong by such simpletons, so they can always come up with new ways to say…
“I may have been wrong, but I was wrong for all of the right reasons. You should therefore continue to take my opinions seriously.”
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Which means you don’t fully understand it. And I think you allow your emotions to get in the way of understanding what I’m saying. When I say someone doesn’t fully understand something like CRT, it doesn’t mean I’m defending it. This is when reading comprehension free from emotional investment comes in. I am against CRT however, I have a deeper understanding than the average person of how much influence it has. It goes beyond teaching white people bad.
This is a facile and ultimately incorrect analysis. What truth are they hostile towards?
Off the top of my head? Woke is hostile to many basic truths that seem to require years of postgraduate study to un-learn. A few quick examples of objective truths they are hostile towards…
The idea that Laurel Hubbard is a man.
The idea that diversity isn’t always a strength.
The idea that Maine was a tolerant and liberal place in the 20th Century.
The idea that we are all responsible for our own well-being.
The idea that disagreeing with them about policy is okay to do.
The idea that citizenship as presently defined is a fair concept.
The hostility can be plainly seen in actual policies and nearly all of the rhetoric I can observe here in Maine, where woke democrats have had so much success. They re-wrote the town’s history on our website and the author didn’t even bother to put a name on their work.
But yes, tell me about how I don’t understand what’s going on, but you do.
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lol and it has been since at least circa ~2004
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See, those are not objective truths. Let’s just pick one:
First off, you call it an idea, not a fact. Second, tolerant is a judgement, an opinion, an interpretation of a fact. Third, liberal. What does that even mean today?
Your wish was fulfilled.
LOL another sign of woke leftism is the incessant need to quibble about word interpretations in an endless circle of non-reasoning that leads to nowhere.
Maine was the most peaceful state in the country and one of the most peaceful places in the world, with excellent public education in the 20th century. There is no history of anything that could be called “hate crimes”, it a leader in abolition, highest participation of any state in the Civil War, and generally quite a nice place to live.
I know this because I moved here.
Meanwhile, a visit to my town’s website in 2024 wants people to believe that Lewiston and Maine were a hotbed of hate for centuries, justifying the existence of DEI commissar in town government. This aggressive need to re-write history and advance unsupported historical narratives is more evidence of woke’s hostility to the truth.
That’s literally where the term “my truth” comes from. It give believers permission to ignore reality.
Woke took over the state, enacted third world election processes, created a massive grift propelled by fear and lies and completely ruined Maine’s largest cities.
Meanwhile, Maine is full of people just like you who went along with ALL OF THAT because they somehow thought the Republicans were out to get them somehow or that people who were opposed to it just didn’t understand it all like they did.
Back here in reality, there were 2 separate shootings in Lewiston last night. The night before had a 20 minute procession of teachers making public comment about the completely impossible task they are given that is a direct result of woke ideology implementation in Maine.
And we still have complete morons running around Maine saying stuff like “both parties are the same man” and “they don’t even know what DEI actually does” and other silly non-opinions shared by people who mistake their contrarian impulses with coherent political thought.
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You don’t get it. I’m not saying you are wrong; I’m saying you’re making an argument that is ultimately one of values, not facts. Like I said, you don’t know what the real issue is or what’s in the balance.