Trump 2025 - Resuming The National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity (Part 1)

Ruling Class = the people who effectively rule the world through wealth and power.

TBH I dont care to be one of these people. I want to be set up similarly to how @Bauber is where the world can go to shit and he/his loved ones will be safe and provided for. Safe from zombies, roving gangs, and government (for the most part).

I aim to be one the people with enough connections and wealth to be ‘safe’ when the elites split off and form their own separate society wherein all the unincluded folk (everyone here) are working themselves to the bones for scraps.

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That could be it. Minnesota and the twin cities are nice. Lots of high paying jobs. Low housing costs given the good jobs. Lots of parks, trees and lakes. The terrain is similar to Maine, but apparently from what I’ve read it seems much safer / less crime.

Our state government has a balanced budget, and in fact runs a surplus most years.

It’s too cold in the winter, but other than that it’s pretty great.

I’ve heard a lot about my state, that doesn’t match reality in the least bit. I was in Minneapolis this morning. Lots of folks out and around on lake Nokomis. I’ve read it burned to the ground. That’s propaganda. Many sources (including conservative ones) list Minnesota as one of the best states to live in. Just Google best states to live in. Click a few articles.

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There’s not much to explain. Women are attracted to men who kill and men who damage other men. Criminals are at the top of the sexual market. Next are high-status men, and then below them, are good-looking men.

First, there is no need for provision from a man, but possible desire for the small pool of men who earn more or are of high-status than they are. And that pool of men has shrunk, and will continue to shrink because of discrimination and misandry. Of course, we all need the labor of ordinary well-employed men, but such men are not desired by such women. Such women, although they earn high incomes, only see men earning more than they do as providers. There are also women who want total independence from men and children.

They might want men for a sex or a stud function, literally speaking, for impregnation. But they do not want these men around or to be beholden to men.

Second, a chunk of boomer women exhorted such women to become careerists because they didn’t actually desire their husbands, a sad but funny conclusion a chunk of us came to. Lol.

Third, there is the notion pushed by the media and society that to put motherhood before career is to be a loser.

Fourth, while I am inclined usually to not criticize men, there is in fact, terrible behavior from a chunk of men these days, and if I were an intelligent and responsible woman, I’d steer clear of them. There is a portion of us who are clowns, infantilized, lack life skills, do not want children, do not want to commit women and consider women to be treated solely as sex objects.

A chunk of us don’t even give a shit about children. Women shouldn’t be with such men.

Fifth, women in the Anglosphere do not envy or respect men in it, and this is 100% our fault. Women don’t want to screw men they don’t envy or respect, let alone have children with them.

Ninety-percent of divorces involving children are initiated by women, and that includes middle-class women.

Trump will not correct family policy, because he is scared of women. His and Elon’s idea for fixing the birthrate: a 5000-buck baby bonuses for women, married or unmarried, which would incentivize sexually-irresponsible women who don’t want dads around.

The abolition of monogamous marriage has had terrible consequences for society.

“Dating” + “relationships” = human extinction.

I agree with all you wrote about government waste.

I only voted for Trump (second time voting in my life) because I did “the lesser of two evils” nonsense. I likely won’t vote ever again.

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We have similar lakes and forest biome, but way different terrain. The highest point in MN is a small hill. Maine has actual mountains with different climate zones due to elevation.

I don’t have time to do a deep dive, but at a glance it seems like Minneapolis at least is very much running the same DSA “script” that Maine’s urban centers do, which includes a brazen propaganda campaign by mainstream media outlets to downplay and minimize the very real quality of life degradation.

“Crime is down” narratives exist in Maine, too, but the devil is always in the details. Compared to what/when? Have tracking or reporting methods been altered? In Maine’s case, many behaviors and events previously considered “crime” are simply no longer measured in any meaningful way.

It was only two years ago that Lewiston even began tracking shootings with no injuries/deaths. They were so rare prior to Gov. Mills administration that they weren’t systematically tracked. Now they happen nearly every week.

Assaults take place nearly every day in Lewiston public schools, which rarely result in expulsion, let alone an arrest that makes its way into official crime statistics.

Compared to before the one party takeover in 2019, Maine has undergone a massive degradation in day to day quality of life due to rising crime in the largest cities, but you would never know that if you listened to NPR or read our “local” newspapers.

Statistically, hypergamy is not supported. Most people couple with people within their socioeconomic group. There have always been men willing to trade wealth for beauty, but these are statistical outliers, generally speaking. Good looking men typically pair with good looking women; affluent people with one another.

I don’t have time to go back and quote/respond, but I would posit that the change in women’s willingness to tie themselves down has come as a result of mistrust of men. If you sacrifice your career development, will he be steadfast? Will he treat you with respect? Not cheat with a woman at work who is more interesting than the PTA wife? Or will you have to tolerate poor behavior because what option do you have as someone capable of earning only limited income with 2-3 kids? Because all signs point to single motherhood as being less financially secure than fatherhood, even in middle class or affluent households.

As a working mom, are you doing the bulk of the household work and family management? Statistically yes. Statistically, you’re likely to be left nagging a man who resents you to step up. They’re exhausted.

I’ve read a lot on these boards about men going their own way (MGTOW), but in reality it seems to be WGTOW.

Yes!

Hey, at least these two lovebirds are building a future together in Bangor.

Related to my above post, this type of crap is pretty common in Lewiston and Portland, too, but doesn’t show up in official crime statistics.

The gaslighting is off the charts in Maine.

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It was definitely planned. We tried for a few years with no luck. She checked out and the problem was me. They put me on HCG and she was pregnant both times within a month of trying.

We knew it was time because our financial situation was optimal and we knew our relationship was solid to give children a good stable home.

Also, we both had always wanted children. She had a very hard time with our second child with placenta previa and bile acid levels or we would have at least had a third. But, we have adopted a third, so all is good.

Honestly, I wanted more 5-6 children, but we are not young anymore and my only regret is not starting to have children younger.

I also think it is a farce that you can’t further your career and raise children correctly. I am old school, so I believe the father should be the provider and leader of the household. My career path has been very unique compared to most and really with a lot of luck and some skill forged a path that has been front loaded with work / time and now I set my schedule as I please. Honestly, I could retire and live well for multiple lifetimes at this point, but I enjoy working around the schedule that I set. My children will be gone one day and I will also need something to do. I don’t do well with being idle.

I don’t really care about my legacy beyond my children - other than being able to give them a starting point that will enable them to have success. I don’t want their road to be easy and I want them to achieve, so their trust funds have extremely specific and tight controls until a later age.

My father-in-law was successful as well. If you met the man, you would not think he had a dollar to his name. He grew up very poor and came from nothing. Still lives very frugal, won’t buy himself new clothes or a new car. He will spare no expense on his grandchildren and children though. Owned a trucking company for 45 years that he sold the first year of covid. It has allowed him to endow his 2 children with 8 figure trust funds that they will receive on his death.

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100% this. I don’t care for anyone to know my name or have any control / power over others.

I just want to enjoy my family, life, and raise my children correctly. Hopefully see some grandkids one day too.

I can tell you all the elites and anyone with money / any sense is preparing to protect themselves and their own. Conspiracy theory shit aside - bad times are coming. 2030-2035 are not going to be pretty in the US or anywhere else. And this is coming from people much smarter than me.

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What type of bad times ?

Depression level or worse in the early to mid 2030’s - mainly due to our debt levels and lack of addressing it.

ITR Economics has been sounding this alarm since the early 2000’s and has doubled down many times now on it.

My take is when that happens it will be much worse too socially as our social fabric is in tatters comparably to the 1920s and 1930s.

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Ahhh. I suppose eventually they will be right about an economic downturn, luckily my house and cars are both paid off. Only thing I have to worry about are my investments… I do think quite a bit these days about if there’s a smarter place to park my investment money than in the general 3 fund investment portfolio with some fun money bets on the side but historically nothing else is as much of a sure bet

i thought you had the inside track on Peter thiel and Zuckerberg creating elysium and leaving us all behind to go mad max on each other haha

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Would you have started trying for kids before you were able to give them this?
How much would you consider to be ‘enough’ for them to have success? Enough for schooling without incurring debt?

Same.

Can i ask what this looks like?
At a time, i wanted to make sure my daughter never had to struggle the way i did, but I’ve been thinking that is not the correct way. She needs to struggle in ways that help her grow.
I’m just not sure on the specifics of that plan.

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So much of your two posts resonate with me. In particular:

Same boat. We have 3, and I would love a 4th, but pregnancy was hard on my wife and she’s not keen on going through it again. Adoption is always something I’ve said I’d be open to. Ironically, I actually woke up this morning thinking about it out of nowhere.

Do you mind sharing your experience with that process? How old was your child when you adopted? Were you able to get a decent history on the biological parents? How is the emotional connection compared to your own kids?

My two biggest hesitations are that, because i love my kids so much, i worry I would treat feel differently about the adopted child. Or worse, treat my own kids differently to compensate for that.

Also, bringing in an unknown pedigree to our family that may have negative impacts on my kids lives down the road (e.g. genetic predilection for addiction or even a normal kid that just resents my kids in the future because he didn’t grow up with his biological parents and acts out because of it).

I have also sensed this for a long while. The social division and financial carelessness/apathy in our country has been too great for too long. No going back now.

Which is why I recently made the decision to move my family somewhere more isolated geographically and deep red politically. My new job should hopefully allow us an upper middle class income, but nowhere near what you describe as having for yourself. Hopefully lack of debt and a much more family oriented community allow us to keep our heads above the water.

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We dealt with placenta previa too. It’s great to hear your families had positive outcomes.

I agree with the sentiment of wanting more kids, but not wanting to take risks again.

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Sure if you ignore all dating habits of women under 35

Fucking hell

You mean like how you believe a regression of womens rights will inevitably end up in a chattel state, despite one never existing in this country?

Or how women would trust a bear over a man in the woods?

Have you considered that women are brainwashed to think man = bad? Because its either brainwashing, or retardation. Take your pick.

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It’s actually why polygamy was outlawed. Dowries also curbed hypergamy.

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Female delusion, medication, and depression are at an all time high… but simps are largely to blame for that

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I 100% agree with this.

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How? Doesn’t simp mean a guy who is being too eager to please any whim woman has? Or something like that.

I guess there are people like that. It sounds like a behaviour of a person who has low self esteem and zero confidence. But I don’t necessarily see it as a sex related thing. Or understand the connection to womens problems.

I’m sure there’s simp women too. I would personally be extremely frustrated if my wife would be obedient and always wanting to please my will.