Trump 2025 - Resuming The National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity (Part 1)

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LOLLLL. Hey, I was lucky enough to be right here for the word salad!

(quick google, I’m too lazy for word salads)

“Projection” has multiple meanings, most commonly referring to the act of assigning one’s own thoughts, feelings, or traits to someone else, or to a calculation of a future value based on current data. It can also refer to a physical projection like a ledge or a map projection.

Here’s a breakdown of the different meanings:

  1. Psychological Projection:

  • This is a defense mechanism where individuals unconsciously attribute their own unacceptable thoughts, feelings, or impulses to someone else.

  • For example, someone who is secretly angry might project that anger onto others, believing they are the ones who are angry.

  • Psychological projection can distort perceptions and lead to misunderstandings in relationships.

  • It can also be used in projective tests like the Rorschach inkblot test to reveal unconscious aspects of a person’s personality, according to EBSCO Research Starters.

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Why would anyone?

Nah, everyone I know and myself will never stop talking about Epstein.

We will probably never know the truth or see anyone prosecuted regardless of the letter next to their name politically.

Nobody on either side is going to do a damn thing or “vote” differently until life gets harder and they can’t eat / watch their idiotic idols or sports teams on tv.

Life is too easy for everyone in America comparatively. It’s the smartest thing the ruling class ever did was to make life comfortable and easy in the Western World - makes it very easy to control everyone and toss some bullshit divisiveness in to keep everyone worrying about shit that doesn’t really matter.

I’m guilty of it it too - not excluding myself because my life is super easy.

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Well in theory there’s a lot of bluster going on about how important this all is, but it didn’t take but a few days for all the talking heads to say it didn’t matter and they were done talking about it after trumps little “are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein” hissy fit

Compare that to Biden getting kicked off the ticket. Completely different reactions. So it IS possible to exert so much pressure that something happens… but they never will

It’s the most obvious example of it to date

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Did you miss the tone in my post or just choose to ignore it?
I’ve been critical of the way the epstein ordeal has been handled since the “release” a couple months ago, and I’ve been bird-dogging it ever since. I’ve also said repeatedly that if Trump’s name is on it, that he needs the guillotine like the rest of them.

If we’re cucked, what does that make the entirety of the democrat voter pool? Kamala was forced on y’all and your buddies lined up rank and file to say “govern me harder, Daddy” all in the name of sAvInG dEmOcRaCy.

If they’re guilty - let them hang. This isn’t a “party” thing.

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anyone wanna guess how Bondi and Maxwell plays out?

Pardon for a friendly testimony?

No new info?

She names Trump?

She names other people ?

She names Clinton /obama/biden/other trump enemies?

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I’ll only guess that we, the 2nd class commonfolk, will be deprived of justice as usual.

I genuinely hope I’m wrong about that.

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I chose to ignore it because I don’t think the vast majority of MAGA is going to turn on him no matter how this plays out. See:J6 … an initial wave of brow furrowing followed by unanimous support. I haven’t seen any evidence MAGA has the ability to hold his feet to the fire

Perhaps you will prove me wrong, I hope so.

Did you forget that it was largely the left wing ecosystem to pushed Biden out in the first place and that Kamala lost by many millions of votes fewer than Biden got in 2020 (oh yeah that was all fraud anyway) ? Doesn’t sound like we wanted her governing us all that hard does it ?

Can you even imagine up anything that would cause Trump to have gotten kicked off the ticket in 2024? I can’t. No one can, because it doesn’t exist. MAGA is too pot committed on Trump to turn on him now no matter how much bluster there is about Epstein.

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Yeah I just wonder what is actually going to happen. If the meeting happens she has to comment on it i Would think and she’s not just gonna say “eh I went to talk with her and she had nothing to say”

Obviously the left is imagining some kind of favorable deal for something that exonerates Trump, but who knows

Given how long this is all taking and how it’s playing out I can’t imagine a “clean” release of this info (either maxwell or the files) that everyone thinks is above the boards and contains all known info about Epstein and the islands known activities and participants.

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4char

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Bernie did not have the popular vote. In the primaries he lost 45% to Hilary’s 55%

Am I supposed to think you do deep analysis on your other claims when you can’t even get this right?

You are correct, Biden did not get ousted of his own choosing. That’s actually my point as well. He seemed mostly fine at the SOTU, in fact fox was saying he was hopped up on all sorts of performance enhancing drugs he was so good.

Not the case at the debate. The ecosystem realized he was an untenable candidate after the debate and pushed him out, at which point his VP and co-nominee stepped into the role. It’s not like she was a rando, she was 2nd on the ticket and his current VP. If Trump had been shot Vance would have been the obvious person to step into the nomination yes?

Would a full blown primary with debates have been better? Sure. But it isn’t the travesty of political justice the right makes it out to be.

In any event I am at least somewhat excited for 2028 because (assuming trump doesn’t find a way to run and his kids don’t ascend the throne) we will be entering uncharted territory with no Clinton’s/bidens/obamas/trumps (at least front and center, no doubt he will be yelling at people from twitter)

I’ll leave it there because I don’t feel like debating the other things is going to be worth the time it would Take either if to really get into them in detail

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If you’re just going to fuck around and waste good faith discussion, at least warn me first.

I answered your question and acknowledged many of your points. You would not do the same in return.
later, lonnie.

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I feel like I genuinely responded to several of them?? I guess you don’t though. I don’t have the time to write dissertations on J6 or trumps spending influence on “bidens inflation” if that’s what you’re looking for. In any event Have a good one

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@Andrewgen_Receptors

Just my opinion.

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@Andrewgen_Receptors

I think the Epstein files (there’s no “List”, just a lot of “stuff” imo) will (probably) have a lot of stuff that shows Epstein and Trump were friends until they had a falling out. And Trump understands that he will lose momentum and have to waste a lot of time defending himself.

Trump not a pedo because as I’ve stated before, creepy guys like Biden (not saying Biden was a pedo, just creepy) elicit weird, ewwww, type responses from kids. I’ve never seen any instances of that with Trump; his granddaughter volunteered to speak at the RNC.

Most tellingly, I have total 100% faith that the Slime e.g. 51 indisputable…intelligence officials would have gone with the nuclear option and leaked any proof post Trump 2024 election before Trump could take office. Look what they did in 2016 when they had zero evidence. With 4 years of zombie Biden The Swamp would have had total access to any and all desired info necessary to nuke Trump 47. And The Swamp would’ve pulled the trigger. Instead, their nuclear option was the autopen blanket pardons.

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Agreed.

I’m not convinced this is true. For the record I like Trumps political views, I think he’s hilarious and I believe he’s doing good work for the country.

I also believe he’s a power and money loving guy, probably a legitimate asshole, a touch narcissistic, and I haven’t forgotten he was very close with the Clintons specifically and the Democrats for most of his life. A major donor, in “the circle”.

He 100% banged Stormy Daniels. I don’t care personally, but he was married. I’m sure he did approach many women with a cavalier attitude of grabbing them by the pussy. Again, I don’t care, and it was a different time for context. People said shit like that casually, it didn’t indicate assault.

But it’s not like he has moral high ground.

Jumping to ritualistic pedophilia is a big jump, however he was definitely in the game with all the people in question for his entire life. With an especially close Epstein relationship apparently.

For the record, I don’t want him to be on “the list”.

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I read this thread daily, conversations held by people I “know,” like, and respect, while at the same time skimming my Facebook feed, which leans liberal, and I ask myself every day how I seem to be the only one I know who finds the entire thing - both sides - a parade of corruption. Bernie - how DARE he say the things he said during his campaign and then bow to the party? Trump - I don’t even have words for the repugnance I feel over this man’s character, though I appreciate much of what he’s doing to stop the spread of far-left overreach (trans issues, sanctuary cities) However, I don’t enjoy the far-right overreach (further redistribution of wealth toward the top, reduction in oversight) so it balances. These are the issues we should be debating, solemnly and respectfully.

The whole thing leaves me mystified and near despair. The left now cackling joyously over the crack they perceive in Epstein. The right gearing up to an even more frothing hatred of Obama, whose economy was solid and whose term in office was relatively scandal-free.

The MSM elected Trump, because he’s a circus people love to watch, so their tut-tutting over him got the views and clicks they crave. And now we live in a circus.

Where is my America?

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Gone, destroyed by the corruption from both parties.

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Divided and arguing over trans rights, race, gender, etc.

If we ever stopped arguing over these things, we’d topple the system and they know it.

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Both sides are like this and it is disgusting and exactly what a 2-party system wants.

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If there has ever been a third party not named Ross Perot in my life, it is MAGA.

It just happened to spring up in The Republican Party, which includes many vestiges of the old guard.

In my opinion, the entire mainstream media is also a vestige of the old guard. I don’t know how anyone can trust what any of them say at this point about national level politics. Even when they support their stories, they are often still deceiving you somehow.

X is where the actual national discussion is taking place, plus podcasts and other long format independent media. You need to have a good bullshit detector to navigate that sea of liars, crooks, attention whores, and malicious actors.

I realize people wish for something easier to find, understand, and digest, but no such individual large media outlet has emerged on the national level yet.

If I had to give one example of a trustworthy national news journalist, Matt Taibbi comes to mind first. He also does a weekly podcast.

In Maine we have The Maine Wire, who functions well as opposition media and does real journalism, but they are also funded by rich republican donors and probably won’t match their present tenacity should republicans take over Maine.

We are presently living through the death of 20th century propagandists as our primary source of information. Americans don’t want to believe we’ve had our own Joseph Goebbels for our entire lives, but we have.

Elon Musk might have actually saved America by unleashing X on the planet. We’re still in the new Wild West, which doesn’t guarantee that that whatever emerges will be incorruptible, but that is why your bullshit detector is so important.