Genuinely interested/curious -where, why?
As I mentioned above, ID is definitely required to buy alcohol, even something as mundane as getting a library card. Shouldn’t the ability to vote be placed on a higher level of importance?
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Considering most rural folk…and logically more difficult to obtain an i.d… are whytes… shouldn’t libs be ok with that?? Let’s be real. Black Americans are their favorite charity case, yet most blacks live in cities… and within walking distance of any number of DMV.
They always paint themselves into a corner
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Mostly poor rural areas. It’s been a long time since I dug into this but my recollection is it may require several forms of residence, original forms of your birth certificate, cost money and may only be available to do certain days of the month at certain DMVs
At the worst case scenario imagine you are poor and don’t even own a car, have to acquire 2 forms of residence and your original copy birth cert, then would have to drive 180 miles and the DMV only does new IDs the third Monday of the month from 9-12
The answer is yes, but maybe not the way you might expect. That is why voting has a special carve out to not require ID. The ability to vote is more important than the need to acquire an ID which can be hard for some people.
And given how few certified cases of voter fraud there has ever been discovered vs the number of people who might have problems getting an ID it seems like the right way to err to me. But I wouldn’t care if a law about it got passed
In which case I agree with what @marine77 said above about the predominant racial composition of rural areas.
I’ll just add (also mentioned above) that the US is the unique example of a civilized nation of law that does not require Voter ID. Makes no sense.
Guarantee you the cost of money is easily surmountable; lots of “right wing” organizations would line up to fund these super poor people for one. From what I’ve read, all one needs for a Voter ID is proof of citizenship or permanent residence, that original form of birth certificate sounds very fishy to me; actually, to be honest, all the reasons you list seem overly hyped (even if true).
This is right up there with the economy is great, you should believe these experts who say so and vote Democrat. It just rings pretty hollow when I have to believe my lying eyes.
A few quick facts.
Maine considers a utility bill to be a form of identification that proves citizenship for voting purposes. My town gets away with going even further, requiring only an affidavit signed that gives an in-town address and four digits that are supposed to be the last four of your SSN.
We have same-day registration, meaning people can and often do register to vote and then vote minutes later. My stepson did exactly that in 2020. You’re perfectly free to register by giving them your driver’s license too, and that’s how he did it.
In practice, this means there is a complete absence of process security in Maine elections. Literally anyone can go sign the affidavit as long as they can rattle of an in-district address and four digits. There are no additional checks that take place after that, not that any time exists to do a check in the hours in between registering/voting and counting votes to announce the election winner.
Of course you won’t find fraud if you design the entire process to have no mechanism by which it could be detected.
Maine Democrats rabidly oppose Voter ID and will call anyone who supports it racist. If you ask if all of the many, many people who need translators to complete this process are US citizens, you will be called racist. If you suggest we should not continue to import more immigrants to Maine, you are called racist. You get the idea.
It defies belief that all of these people are US citizens who passed the citizenship test but need a translator to vote, and it defies belief that Maine Democrats’ opposition to voter ID is to make sure every US citizen in Maine is able to vote. The latter would be a ridiculously easy problem to solve in 2024, if someone in Maine somehow couldn’t get ID on their own and still wanted to vote.
For all of the talk of avoiding disenfranchisement, leftists overlook the fact that every single non-citizen who votes disenfranchises a citizen.
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What’s funny is I thought that comic was going exactly the opposite direction
Seems you can’t watch a single interview with a member of trumps camp where they don’t try to claim he didn’t say or mean the thing he said and actually meant this other thing or didn’t actually say the words we have him on tape saying
Like when he wanted to shoot Liz Cheney out of a cannon. 
Ex.
What he actually said:
What “news outlets” Said he said.
If you’d rather take second hand hyperbole over actual video of what he actually said, thats fine with me.
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No
That depends on who’s definition one goes by
My definition is that inflation is an increase in the supply of money
Some people think you can measure inflation by measuring changes in prices without paying attention to changes in the supply of money
That’s obfuscation imo
If there were no changes to the supply of money, prices should be going down. The price of milk “should” be going down as milk producing and transport practices get increasingly efficient
at zero inflation prices do go down, eventually
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Musk got his bachelor’s in economics, and everything that he has said about fixing the economy demonstrates that he knows what he’s talking about on a technical level.
That’s because the media is constantly twisting his words.
Its a matter of interpretation.
Some newscasters especially like to interpret what he says, as if they have some mystical power of divination when it comes to basic spoken english.
Or, you can just listen to wat he actually says. 
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They do that, no doubt. But he also says plenty of insane stuff they don’t need to twist
JD Vance recently had to twist himself into knots denying that trump said the left was the enemy within (he specifically cited Adam Schiff) and that the military may need to be used against them and JD had to find all sorts of ways that wasn’t actually what he meant.
No twisting of his words required. He repeated the claim several times to clarify it.
You’re right. Roll tape.
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You must mean “an official birth certificate.” I lost my “original” birth certificate decades ago.
I cannot believe that any state in the USA requires an original birth certificate for anything.
Florida had recently passed a law that if I wanted to have a driver’s license that proved that I am a citizen that I needed an official birth certificate, proof of my social security number, and two pieces of mail of proof of residence. I just did this today as my driver’s license was set to expire on my birthday this November. I needed to buy an official birth certificate from my birth state (Indiana.) I did so in May of this year.
I abhor any possibility that a person can vote illegally. Any person doing so is possibly negating my vote. If every vote is important all votes must be legal or for every illegal vote cancels the importance of the same number of legal votes.
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This is common sense.
Show me the twisting and knots.
So that’s trump specifically naming american citizens as rhe people he is talking about
Now combine it with this clip about using the military on them: https://youtu.be/7DTcHLPvf2w?si=imQyLa8isqchUHnK
And here’s Vance denying trump said that and saying he’s talking about things trump never said:
Hand wringing over an actual track record.
Gee, I wonder what a truly “objective” person prefers.
All due respect, but that bickering is second hand heresay. Its not even an analysis of what he actually said, but what someone said he said, being rechewed like cud.
Tapper is a hack and a clown.
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Yes. And why they actually are the enemy within. He presents a very compelling series of facts as to why they are, too.
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