Bro I think you may have saved my TRT journey, seriously.
If anyone is interested I can compare and post bloodwork to see if there was any difference there between cyp vs enan.
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Please post. What is your dose and timing? And I assume you went enanthate? What has been better for you symptom wise? Half life is also shorter right? Thanks.
That is so awesome to hear and makes my day. I hope it continues working well for you. It was a major revelation for me too and it made the difference between tolerating TRT at worthwhile doses vs. having to keep the dose so low that I realized no benefit (and still suffering a bunch of sides at that ridiculous low dose anyway).
At the moment around 140ish per week split in 2 shots per week. I say 140ish because I draw with a 23G needle 0.34ml (the syringe is only even number increments) and then draw out entirely out of the needle before switching it. It’s 200mg/ml enanthate. So am I doing 136mg? 140mg? 144mg?
Ok so that out of the way 4 major things I see improvement: strength, better joints/cramps, less brain fog, better libido.
-My strength is actually pretty high, I would say strongest it’s been for years.
“Oh but you must be eating more or now you are injecting more than before”, no I have injected way more than that on cyp. I am also cutting right now if you if you want to say that because for a few weeks now I skip breakfast more times than not or eat only 2 meals a day doing IF. Matter of fact right now I am fasted at the gym (12:50pm) hitting great numbers and even did more compounds in the workout compared to more isolations prior.
-I would regularly get cramps or crackling joints, haven’t hit this many of compounds for the same muscle group in one day in years. Walking around right now thinking wtf why aren’t my shoulders making me cringe in pain.
“Oh but you must have your macro nutrients in check and upped your protein” no everything is the same, maybe even worse since I am eating less overall. Drinking water the same, no supplements, no protein powder.
-less brain fog and over all better well being.
Don’t know, not much to say just is what it is other than “I feel better” as I go through day to day.
-libidos and erections, now here probably the most important part to all. So there was already some improvement due to my current very understanding GF, and honestly there is STILL room for improvement as things stand. I am very satisfied though right now and hopefully I could drop daily cialis for good at some point, right now I don’t even take 5mg every day, but here and there (and I have to)
“Oh but you are probably resting better and are in a better mental place” well maybe I am in a better mental place but there was one day I remember recently after 2 nights of crap sleep, being over worked, drinking 3 nights in a row including one night resulting in almost throwing up some with really bad reflux… the next day I got a boner twice while my gf was just laying next to me that lasted me both sessions, oh also I skipped my 5mg for 1-2 doses prior to those crap days. So far on all of my TRT journey prior to this you can for sure bet that would haven never happened before.
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Is it the carrier oil as this one is diff than what I always got with cyp? Is it enanthate vs cyp, is it enanthate converting to more/less E2 favoring a better ratio? Is it that this hikma brand is missing those ingredient mentioned? Mix of everything? I don’t know for sure.
I think there may be something to those missing ingredients hence less systemic inflammation.
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That is awesome to hear. So less anxiety and wired feeling too? Now for the important questions: sleep. Better?
To anxiety and weird feeling yes. Sleep is hit and miss as I always had shit sleep, even pre TRT. So far after the switch I have had some amazing nights of suddenly falling asleep and not remember anything the next morning sleeping through the night, but I still also had some absolute shit shows of tossing and turning. This I will have to monitor and see how it goes as time passes.
This is what I’m using now. It feels much better than their cyp. Is there a difference going over to the generic without the BA?
I don’t know, but I’m about to find out, because my beloved Hikma enanthate is on a nationwide backorder. I ordered some Empower enanthate to try it.
My suspicion is that the bulk of the negative cypionate effects are caused by the benzyl benzoate, which is present at very high concentration (the same 200 mg/ml as the testosterone ester) and has major effects on the viscosity and release pattern of the oil depot. After removing that, you are left with only a small amount of benzyl alcohol preservative in the Empower formula (I believe only 9.45 mg/ml).
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Let me know if you notice a difference
I read this a while back. Really interesting, and truly appreciate you taking the time to document your journey. I suffer from similar symptoms to you when using Cypionate. If you don’t mind my asking, which injection frequency did you land on while using the Enanthate?
I’ve had the best luck with IM EOD.
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Friend try pregnilonone and magnesium glycenate at bedtime and DHEA in the morning. Magic formula. Problem solved. Give it a solid week.
Is this through Kaiser or a TRT clinic? I recall Kaiser prescribed Jatenzo because you went through everything else.
Nothing ever helped. Trying 60 mg, Test E, every 5 days. Considered either giving up on T or trying topical. Seeing my urologist next week. For me, though, high dose(100 mg IM, 2X weekly) virtually eliminated depression, anhedonia, anxiety and improved ability to handle stress. No psychiatric drug ever did that. Yes, maybe too high a dose for me, but it made me feel like I did 35 years ago. I didn’t think that would ever be possible.