Just take a look at what he wanted me to use:
Explains… EVERYTHING… ![]()
Don’t walk from that doctor. Run. Run for your life. Literally.
I know the difference, and ED is a complicated problem. What you are not recognizing is the people finding that correlation. I know you believe there is no link. People believe a lot of things, often based on the current science. The thing is, science changes, and we learn new things, and you can’t just be fixed in your current understanding or you stop exploring, stop learning, and stop getting better understanding. And aromatase is not entirely dependent on fat levels, there are guys with less body fat than you on here with higher E2. You’re blinkering yourself because you’ve stopped looking at possibilities. And I believe that I am on record being not anti-E2. It is quite useful and generally seems to be beneficial for guys even at higher levels.
I never said aromatase is entirely dependant on fat. I said obese people typically have higher levels of E2 due to higher levels of the aromatase enzyme in the fat. That’s not an opinion. It’s in the literature. We’ve known that for quite some time.
The things that I am saying are thing that have been demonstrated to me when I had previously thought differently. That, in itself, is evidence of an open mind combined with critical thinking. It is currently considered ‘best practises’ until a better way can be demonstrated to me.
Well, he prescribes me 120mg against his wishes and provides labs for free but I hear what you are saying. I go SubQ daily without him knowing and the test is legal. How better can it be in this country besides the other recourse, going State side on my own dime. OOSH…
Keep on keeping on. You get what you need, insurance covers it. Sounds like a win.
For me, I found a doctor who was eager to learn. I’ve been teaching him. He modified his own protocol based on what I taught him and he’s had a significant improvement. He’s now modifying his patients protocols based on that info. I crammed Dr Nichols from his office at one point just to demonstrate that I wasn’t entirely full of shit. Now I tell him what protocol should be in place and everything has worked our for the best.
Wow, that’s incredible. I just bring up some facts, even printed on paper, and he says he can’t go against the standards of the Ontario whatevers… maybe it’s time to move to La Belle Province…
VIVE LA DIFFERENCE!
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Didn’t realize you were in Ontario. There are some open minded TRT docs there. It’s easier to find there than in a lot of US States.
Yeah, they are in Toronto, a 5 hour drive and a hellhole IMHO. LOL I live rurally, away from people and all the noise and garbage and everything… hahahaha.
There’s a guy in Burlington with a whole clinic. I don’t know how good he is, but that’s his thing. There actually a list out there on a different site. I’ll have to hunt the link. canadian muscle or something. I searched TRT Canada I think and found it before. I grew up rural too, but closer than 5 hours from TO. Everyone should go see it once, but after that it’s just violating the Geneva Convention.
Yup, 5 hours one way with NO insane rush hour. Not happening…
There was a doc, in Dunnville I think, when I was in high school that was prescribing to everyone. Guys were going there for scripts for AAS. There are guys around that will work with you, it just takes a little looking.
That’s even further away from Burlington, right on Lake Erie and have to go way past Niagara Falls and Hamilton. LOL Thank you though… appreciate trying to help. I’m fucked here in Ottawa trying to double my Free T, unless going it alone and $$$.
Decided to change protocol to eliminating the AI and dosing T daily. Can’t really think of a better way to get a consistent result. Will update thread at a later date with results, thanks again to all!
Yes, please do. The guys here need to see more posts by guys like you who will report feeling better by ditching the AI and doing more frequent dosing. When ditching the AI you may feel worse before you feel better (happened to me though it was brief). When you start feeling better though, you’ll be happy you made the decision.
I managed to go to now 16 with only some caber and clomid, but still feel suboptimal. Just the fuckin lab is saying now the upper limit is 22 where it used to be 40 ![]()
Can you recommed a doctore trained by Nichols or Rouzier somewhere in Europe?